Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 2:52:07 GMT -6
Dec 30, 2016 1:50:40 GMT -6 @soulman said:
Thank you for some intelligent sober thoughts. I was beginning to think I was back in rehab again listening to drunks rationalize why they drink.The very idea of trading for Garoppolo only works if the price isn't too steep which is why I posted an entire thread that showed what the #1 and #4 Minny paid for Bradford were actually worth in draft capital points = 812. That's roughly equivalent to a later (20th or lower) 1st round pick or a 2nd and 3rd with maybe a 5th in return or a current 2nd and a future 2nd. Who really knows and we won't until it actually happens....if it happens.
It's not our 1st (2200 points) or even Cleveland's #10 pick (1300 points). It's far less than that if that's NE's asking price and because it came from the mouth of Adam Schefter we don't even know how accurate that is. So for those of you who still believe it means our #3 overall pick and our 4th round pick or anything even close to that thank you for NOT taking time to read and understand the base line info a already gave to base intelligent debate on.
So what I get from this poll is that roughly 80% might actually favor spending the same or far more draft capital on an unproven college QB than a QB whose had some decent development in one of the best offenses in the NFL, who actually has significant pro game tape that can be evaluated, who has been part of a winning tradition both in college and the pros, and who has all or most of the traits we're looking for at QB many of which some say Cutler does not. And you still don't want him huh? Hoo boy.
Well then just who do you want because you're all beginning to sound like my ex with this "don't confuse me with facts my mind's made up" shit. I stopped trying to deal with no win deal years ago so I'll let you all decide.
STRENGTHS
Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup). Lightning release quickness. Urgent decision maker. Sells play-action. Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield. Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open. Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket. Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball. Will deliver the ball looking down the barrel of a gun. Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up. Highly competitive. Smart, respected, vocal team leader. Very durable, experienced, four-year starter. Good football intelligence.
That MAY be true, but it's also exceedingly unlikely. The "Dak scenario" only happens once a decade or so, if even that often.
We should have drafted him but here his upside as a rookie might have been more like Barkley than most will admit. He's good enough but also playing far above expectation and that tends to balance out once the playing field gets leveled. If say his protection broke down as it would have here his game would not be anywhere near the same because it wasn't in college either.
If there really is a miss to make up for then maybe that miss is Garoppolo since Emery passed on him for Ego Ferguson whose been pretty much a full on bust. Garoppolo was another QB who was there for the taking and we passed to draft a defender who was rated by some no better than a late 3rd or 4th round pick. So I guess the logic on not exploring that option to an end escapes me and all I hear are excuses for why not instead of valid reasons.
