Bears release JF video

I am not going to criticize Williams. He might be the ticket to a SB. I personally am not sure he is going to be any better than Fields, and certainly don't think he would have survived physically as well after all the hits Fields took. And if we fix the line so that Williams will get hit less, that will also benefit Fields. I just want the team to win. If a different QB gets us there, that's great. I am not invested in Fields other than I think we can win with him.

Yeah, I like that option but only if we go after the QB we really want. I don't want to go with a "budget" choice so that we can get more picks. If we are going after a QB, we have the first pick. Take the one we want and let's not play games or try and figure out who takes what and if our guy will still be there at what position. If it is determined JF is not the guy and we need and have identified a franchise QB, we have the first pick. Use it. A franchise QB is worth more than a first pick. It lasts for many years. If we don't get the guy we think can change the franchise because we are trying to play Madden and get a few extra picks, that will piss me off. 

Sure, no one said otherwise.  

What do you honestly think Fields ceiling is?  Don't get emotional but stay logical and realistic about it.  You have watched him a ton I assume.  What do you honestly think his ceiling is?

Now, how many more years until he can reach it?  One?  Two?  Five?  You only have one season left at this point.  Two if you're willing to fork over $23m for his 5th year option.

So that's what this boils down to.  If you think his realistic ceiling is high enough and the timeline to get there is short enough, the you want to keep him.

I DON'T think it's high enough.  I waited and waited all season to see it and I didn't.  And I was very optimistic back on Labor Day that he was going to break out this year.

For me, it's very simple--the QB's ceiling isn't high enough so it's time to move on.  You are "building the team" either way.  

Just judging by his passing at OSU I have to believe his ceiling is a top-5 NFL quarterback... especially when you consider what he has shown as far as his running skills.  Like any QB he needs the coaching and players around him to reach his ceiling.  Not talking about "perfect" support.  I'm thinking the Bears will have the needed level of coach & players to do that this year.  I doubt that the Bears keep him,but if they did I believe Waldron would help him get that release time down like he has other QBs, including Geno.  That OSU deep ball game (lethal deep ball accuracy) is still there, and once the OL can provide him a pocket to work out of - that will return to what we have seen him do at OSU.  He needs a WR to compliment DJ (the new kid will benefit from that too... just as he will from a better OL).  

I have zero doubt about Fields' passing skills because I have watched him do the things he needs to do at the NFL level.  In fact I have more doubt about these 2024 draft QBs than I do about Fields ability to do these things at the highest level.  I have seen that with my own eyes.  

I figure the Bears will move on from Fields, and I do understand there are reasons why that may be the best option (money, reset the contract, and maybe another QB's skill set is a better fit for what Waldron wants to do here, and there are other things too).  So no worries if the Bears move on from Fields.  But just because the Bears do move on, I don't figure we have to believe we have seen Fields' ceiling and as some posters put it, he is "trash" as a player.  I will be hoping he does land on a great team and truly does ascend - this guy is not a Trubisky level guy.  The talent is there.  It just did not work out here... stuff happens... time to move on I guess.