Maybe we'll do the Marvin Harrison Jr thing after all. I hope so. I so agree with what Herb Howard is saying here... the Bears fastest path to the Super Bowl is through Justin Fields.
Maybe we'll do the Marvin Harrison Jr thing after all. I hope so. I so agree with what Herb Howard is saying here... the Bears fastest path to the Super Bowl is through Justin Fields.
It may be the fastest way but it won't create a winning culture like we see with the Chiefs.
A franchise QB who can throw 4k yards, 30+ TDs, win a playoff game, start 80+ games, and get a pro bowl will.
How many have Field checked off from that list I gave you? Why be a one and done Super Bowl team with a bottom tier QB. Even if we only have 1 Super Bowl with Williams but become the new Green Bay Packers of the north. That would be much more enjoyable.
Maybe we'll do the Marvin Harrison Jr thing after all. I hope so. I so agree with what Herb Howard is saying here... the Bears fastest path to the Super Bowl is through Justin Fields.
It may be the fastest way but it won't create a winning culture like we see with the Chiefs.
A franchise QB who can throw 4k yards, 30+ TDs, win a playoff game, start 80+ games, and get a pro bowl will.
How many have Field checked off from that list I gave you? Why be a one and done Super Bowl team with a bottom tier QB. Even if we only have 1 Super Bowl with Williams but become the new Green Bay Packers of the north. That would be much more enjoyable.
You could be right but a number of people do see it as Fields' ceiling being a lot higher with a decent coach and O talent. And a number of people don't see Caleb as a sure thing by any means - could even be a bust at the NFL level... we won't know until he plays. He certainly wouldn't be the first Heisman guy to bust in the NFL. He sure wouldn't be the first #1 pick of the draft to bust at the NFL level. And we don't know who Waldron prefers as his QB1. I think he could prefer Caleb, but he may very well see Fields as the better QB. Again, I am not talking about the Nagy/Getsy version of Fields but the guy playing with a real offense and coaching staff behind him. I do agree (strongly) with a comment by butkus3595 that he made weeks ago, that Fields has yet to be coached at the NFL level. Fields could very well end up being the guy who can provide sustained winning here. But I do understand and respect others (and your) opinion that see it the other way. I could be wrong.
Maybe we'll do the Marvin Harrison Jr thing after all. I hope so. I so agree with what Herb Howard is saying here... the Bears fastest path to the Super Bowl is through Justin Fields.
It is both the fastest and the best. As long as JF can do what we need him to do. Problem is... we don't know if he is or not. But I see more out of him than any other QB we have brought in. At least in recent times
It may be the fastest way but it won't create a winning culture like we see with the Chiefs.
A franchise QB who can throw 4k yards, 30+ TDs, win a playoff game, start 80+ games, and get a pro bowl will.
How many have Field checked off from that list I gave you? Why be a one and done Super Bowl team with a bottom tier QB. Even if we only have 1 Super Bowl with Williams but become the new Green Bay Packers of the north. That would be much more enjoyable.
You could be right but a number of people do see it as Fields' ceiling being a lot higher with a decent coach and O talent. And a number of people don't see Caleb as a sure thing by any means - could even be a bust at the NFL level... we won't know until he plays. He certainly wouldn't be the first Heisman guy to bust in the NFL. He sure wouldn't be the first #1 pick of the draft to bust at the NFL level. And we don't know who Waldron prefers as his QB1. I think he could prefer Caleb, but he may very well see Fields as the better QB. Again, I am not talking about the Nagy/Getsy version of Fields but the guy playing with a real offense and coaching staff behind him. I do agree (strongly) with a comment by butkus3595 that he made weeks ago, that Fields has yet to be coached at the NFL level. Fields could very well end up being the guy who can provide sustained winning here. But I do understand and respect others (and your) opinion that see it the other way. I could be wrong.
What has showed you that he is the guy?
He's a subpar 150 passing QB who relies way too much on his legs. Even Packer players admitted saying making Fields play QB is how you beat them. Leads the league in 4th quarter turnovers. Struggles against playoff teams. His numbers are not going to drastically improve adding Harrison here. Then you only have 2 years to really see if he can get into that mid tier QB list.
If you want to win, you need a QB that can throw.
It would be a very Bear thing to do by keeping Fields here. We don't like to improve at QB. Just pretend everyone else is the problem like we did with Jay Cutler and Mitch Trubisky.
You could be right but a number of people do see it as Fields' ceiling being a lot higher with a decent coach and O talent. And a number of people don't see Caleb as a sure thing by any means - could even be a bust at the NFL level... we won't know until he plays. He certainly wouldn't be the first Heisman guy to bust in the NFL. He sure wouldn't be the first #1 pick of the draft to bust at the NFL level. And we don't know who Waldron prefers as his QB1. I think he could prefer Caleb, but he may very well see Fields as the better QB. Again, I am not talking about the Nagy/Getsy version of Fields but the guy playing with a real offense and coaching staff behind him. I do agree (strongly) with a comment by butkus3595 that he made weeks ago, that Fields has yet to be coached at the NFL level. Fields could very well end up being the guy who can provide sustained winning here. But I do understand and respect others (and your) opinion that see it the other way. I could be wrong.
What has showed you that he is the guy?
He's a subpar 150 passing QB who relies way too much on his legs. Even Packer players admitted saying making Fields play QB is how you beat them. Leads the league in 4th quarter turnovers. Struggles against playoff teams. His numbers are not going to drastically improve adding Harrison here. Then you only have 2 years to really see if he can get into that mid tier QB list.Â
If you want to win, you need a QB that can throw.Â
It would be a very Bear thing to do by keeping Fields here. We don't like to improve at QB. Just pretend everyone else is the problem like we did with Jay Cutler and Mitch Trubisky.Â
I have a problem with pretending our QBs are not running for their life everytime critical play occurs. Cutler never got to sit in the pocket and throw, Fields rarely does, rewatch last Packers game if you disagree. Not saying Fields is the answer but Caleb Williams seems like Fields 2. Same faults no nfl experience. Hope Poles gets it right but pretending other issues are not present is like a drunk leaning on a light pole that doesn't work
He's a subpar 150 passing QB who relies way too much on his legs. Even Packer players admitted saying making Fields play QB is how you beat them. Leads the league in 4th quarter turnovers. Struggles against playoff teams. His numbers are not going to drastically improve adding Harrison here. Then you only have 2 years to really see if he can get into that mid tier QB list.
If you want to win, you need a QB that can throw.
It would be a very Bear thing to do by keeping Fields here. We don't like to improve at QB. Just pretend everyone else is the problem like we did with Jay Cutler and Mitch Trubisky.
I have a problem with pretending our QBs are not running for their life everytime critical play occurs. Cutler never got to sit in the pocket and throw, Fields rarely does, rewatch last Packers game if you disagree. Not saying Fields is the answer but Caleb Williams seems like Fields 2. Same faults no nfl experience. Hope Poles gets it right but pretending other issues are not present is like a drunk leaning on a light pole that doesn't work
We gave Cutler one of the best offenses we ever had in 2013 and went 8-8. Outside of getting a center and guard. Our O-line is ok. Center is a big need and can easily be filled in FA or draft.
Trubisky had a great offense in 2018 but our defense carried us to the playoffs. He's barely a backup quality QB now.
Fields is more talented than Trubisky but he's not the answer.
