And I would add that even if you do have a team checking out a trade, that doesn't automatically translate into it being a good deal.
And again, I feel the need to point out....again. Just cause you think Poles can/should/could-have traded down doesn't mean he actually got a call OR a good offer for the pick. My least favorite posts are the: [insert name Bears GM here] could have traded down with [insert name of team drafting 5-9 slots lower] and still picked [insert random draft pick here] AND gotten a free [insert random day 3 pick here] pick too! [insert of Bears GM] is an [insert favorite insult here]. He didn't get the best value with that pick. I had [insert name of Bears draft pick here] ranked [insert a number between 2 and 4] rounds later.
Completely agree. Drives me crazy too.
"Trade down" requires TWO PARTIES TO AGREE people! Just because you want to do it, doesn't mean it is possible.
And again, I feel the need to point out....again. Just cause you think Poles can/should/could-have traded down doesn't mean he actually got a call OR a good offer for the pick. My least favorite posts are the: [insert name Bears GM here] could have traded down with [insert name of team drafting 5-9 slots lower] and still picked [insert random draft pick here] AND gotten a free [insert random day 3 pick here] pick too! [insert of Bears GM] is an [insert favorite insult here]. He didn't get the best value with that pick. I had [insert name of Bears draft pick here] ranked [insert a number between 2 and 4] rounds later.
Completely agree. Drives me crazy too.
"Trade down" requires TWO PARTIES TO AGREE people! Just because you want to do it, doesn't mean it is possible.
You learn something every day. So before you can do a trade, you must attend two parties?
I don't disagree, MOTM, but there's a possibility that Alt & Odunze are gone and there AREN'T any trade partners available. If the phone isn't ringing, you gotta make your pick at 9 even if you don't want to.
This poll is about WHO the Bears will take SOMEWHERE in the 1st. You might be stuck at 9 whether you like it or not.
And I would add that even if you do have a team checking out a trade, that doesn't automatically translate into it being a good deal.
Poles today in a his presser suggested they have a list of top guys they're interested in and they aren't gonna trade down down past that list.
So, if you are taking him at his word, you can forget about moving back to the 20s. It sounds like he staying at 9 or maybe doing a small trade to the early/mid teens and no more.
I LOVE THAT.
Get your guy and don't dick around with a measly mid round pick.
And I would add that even if you do have a team checking out a trade, that doesn't automatically translate into it being a good deal.
Poles today in a his presser suggested they have a list of top guys they're interested in and they aren't gonna trade down down past that list.
So, if you are taking him at his word, you can forget about moving back to the 20s. It sounds like he staying at 9 or maybe doing a small trade to the early/mid teens and no more.
I LOVE THAT.
Get your guy and don't dick around with a measly mid round pick.
I like that. It's the way it should be done. Of course whether or not your guy is where you think he is going to be is something he has no way of knowing..... He just has to play a mathematical game and know that at least one will be there, but how far down the hierarchy that person is on the list is a crapshoot.
Poles today in a his presser suggested they have a list of top guys they're interested in and they aren't gonna trade down down past that list.
So, if you are taking him at his word, you can forget about moving back to the 20s. It sounds like he staying at 9 or maybe doing a small trade to the early/mid teens and no more.
I LOVE THAT.
Get your guy and don't dick around with a measly mid round pick.
I like that. It's the way it should be done. Of course whether or not your guy is where you think he is going to be is something he has no way of knowing..... He just has to play a mathematical game and know that at least one will be there, but how far down the hierarchy that person is on the list is a crapshoot.
Point is, doesn't sound like we are making a big enough trade down to get a 2nd rounder so forget about that. You are looking at a modest trade down, if any at all, that would yield a 4th or maybe a 3rd.
IOW, the compensation you'd get isn't worth passing on a blue chip guy. DON'T GET CUTE
I like that. It's the way it should be done. Of course whether or not your guy is where you think he is going to be is something he has no way of knowing..... He just has to play a mathematical game and know that at least one will be there, but how far down the hierarchy that person is on the list is a crapshoot.
Point is, doesn't sound like we are making a big enough trade down to get a 2nd rounder so forget about that. You are looking at a modest trade down, if any at all, that would yield a 4th or maybe a 3rd.
IOW, the compensation you'd get isn't worth passing on a blue chip guy. DON'T GET CUTE
He's the best edge in this class by far IMO. If not for his neck history, he'd be a surefire top-7 pick. Yes, it's a risk but he has played 2 seasons w/o incident since being cleared to return. He also has the prototypical scheme fit, size, and length that Poles/Flus have repeatedly said they want.
Man, if Poles is ok with his medical eval, he's the defense player I'm most excited about in this draft for us. You hit on Latu and this defense is immediately elite.
Alt/Odunze/Latu -- those are my 3 targets but honestly still don't know where Poles is going with this.
I'm waiting for Thursday morning to vote. I just don't know.
After reading quotes from Poles in The Athletic, if Odunze is gone before #9, he’s going to take Murphy.
Edit: The proverbial cat is out of the bag. The Bears have already decided they are going with Murphy at #9. Adam Schefler nailed it.
He's the best edge in this class by far IMO. If not for his neck history, he'd be a surefire top-7 pick. Yes, it's a risk but he has played 2 seasons w/o incident since being cleared to return. He also has the prototypical scheme fit, size, and length that Poles/Flus have repeatedly said they want.
Man, if Poles is ok with his medical eval, he's the defense player I'm most excited about in this draft for us. You hit on Latu and this defense is immediately elite.
Alt/Odunze/Latu -- those are my 3 targets but honestly still don't know where Poles is going with this.
I'm waiting for Thursday morning to vote. I just don't know.
After reading quotes from Poles in The Athletic, if Odunze is gone before #9, he’s going to take Murphy.
Edit: The proverbial cat is out of the bag. The Bears have already decided they are going with Murphy at #9. Adam Schefler nailed it.
I think that's very possible. Wouldn't be my first choice but I admit there's a case for him. Poles hinted today he favors DT over DE.
After reading quotes from Poles in The Athletic, if Odunze is gone before #9, he’s going to take Murphy.
Edit: The proverbial cat is out of the bag. The Bears have already decided they are going with Murphy at #9. Adam Schefler nailed it.
I think that's very possible. Wouldn't be my first choice but I admit there's a case for him. Poles hinted today he favors DT over DE.
It was more than a hint. Eberflus sold him on Murphy, and now Poles is preparing us for it, even if Odunze is on the board. On Brugler’s rankings, Odunze is #6 and Murphy #16. If possible, I’d rather trade down for Newton plus 2nd round pick than take Murphy at #9.
