Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 19:57:29 GMT -6

Post by mpbears68 on Dec 5, 2023 19:57:29 GMT -6

Dec 5, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -6 motm said:

Dec 5, 2023 18:03:14 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Yeah it sucks but if Sweat works out (and I think its highly likely he will), it's a trivial cost. We forget that most 2nd rounders don't end up getting 2nd contracts. I do agree the cost was high for someone who was about to hit FA in 1/2 a season but:
A) the draft looks weak this year for high end edge prospects and
B) we were really desperate. I mean, we had a big fat NOTHING before him.

But why were we desperate not once but twice in a position of need? Use FA to your advantage. We put a ton of money into a positional group that doesn't make as much of an impact anymore (LB) then ignore other positions. I'm just happy Sweat is working out for us unlike Claypool. Some want to praise poles on landing DJ Moore but remember it took Lovie Smith's team getting a last minute win to get us that #1 overall pick. Would the panthers still trade us DJ Moore for the 2nd overall pick? Doubt it.

Still 1st and 2nd round picks should be important. Those are your foundation picks going forward. 4 years of cheap deals for a chance of a star.

Tell me who exactly was available at DE/Edge in FA last year.

No one. Those guys rarely make it to FA.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 20:09:20 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 5, 2023 20:09:20 GMT -6

Dec 5, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -6 motm said:

Dec 5, 2023 18:03:14 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Yeah it sucks but if Sweat works out (and I think its highly likely he will), it's a trivial cost. We forget that most 2nd rounders don't end up getting 2nd contracts. I do agree the cost was high for someone who was about to hit FA in 1/2 a season but:
A) the draft looks weak this year for high end edge prospects and
B) we were really desperate. I mean, we had a big fat NOTHING before him.

But why were we desperate not once but twice in a position of need? Use FA to your advantage. We put a ton of money into a positional group that doesn't make as much of an impact anymore (LB) then ignore other positions. I'm just happy Sweat is working out for us unlike Claypool. Some want to praise poles on landing DJ Moore but remember it took Lovie Smith's team getting a last minute win to get us that #1 overall pick. Would the panthers still trade us DJ Moore for the 2nd overall pick? Doubt it.

Still 1st and 2nd round picks should be important. Those are your foundation picks going forward. 4 years of cheap deals for a chance of a star.

LOL...Poles worked the hand he was dealt...and man are you talking out both sides of your mouth when it comes to Pace. And YES...the Panthers would have traded up for #2...its been WIDELY reported that Poles had a deal worked out with Carolina to trade up to 2 after trading back to 2 with Houston. Houston wouldn't pull the trigger. So much for that narrative. Yes...first round picks are important...its why Poles got us an extra one this year and an extra 2nd next year. So much for THAT narrative. I really need the My Cousin Vinny clip to insert here..."I'm done with this guy now"

Whats your next narrative?

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 20:10:33 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 5, 2023 20:10:33 GMT -6

Dec 5, 2023 19:57:29 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Dec 5, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -6 motm said:

But why were we desperate not once but twice in a position of need? Use FA to your advantage. We put a ton of money into a positional group that doesn't make as much of an impact anymore (LB) then ignore other positions. I'm just happy Sweat is working out for us unlike Claypool. Some want to praise poles on landing DJ Moore but remember it took Lovie Smith's team getting a last minute win to get us that #1 overall pick. Would the panthers still trade us DJ Moore for the 2nd overall pick? Doubt it.

Still 1st and 2nd round picks should be important. Those are your foundation picks going forward. 4 years of cheap deals for a chance of a star.

Tell me who exactly was available at DE/Edge in FA last year.

No one. Those guys rarely make it to FA.

He knows there was nobody at the edge position worth spending big money on in free agency...he's just throwing shit against the wall to see if nobody will notice and it will stick.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 21:27:02 GMT -6 butkus3595 likes this

Post by shark86 on Dec 5, 2023 21:27:02 GMT -6

Dec 5, 2023 20:09:20 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Dec 5, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -6 motm said:

But why were we desperate not once but twice in a position of need? Use FA to your advantage. We put a ton of money into a positional group that doesn't make as much of an impact anymore (LB) then ignore other positions. I'm just happy Sweat is working out for us unlike Claypool. Some want to praise poles on landing DJ Moore but remember it took Lovie Smith's team getting a last minute win to get us that #1 overall pick. Would the panthers still trade us DJ Moore for the 2nd overall pick? Doubt it.

Still 1st and 2nd round picks should be important. Those are your foundation picks going forward. 4 years of cheap deals for a chance of a star.

LOL...Poles worked the hand he was dealt...and man are you talking out both sides of your mouth when it comes to Pace. And YES...the Panthers would have traded up for #2...its been WIDELY reported that Poles had a deal worked out with Carolina to trade up to 2 after trading back to 2 with Houston. Houston wouldn't pull the trigger. So much for that narrative. Yes...first round picks are important...its why Poles got us an extra one this year and an extra 2nd next year. So much for THAT narrative. I really need the My Cousin Vinny clip to insert here..."I'm done with this guy now"

Whats your next narrative?

Love that movie! thanks for the reminder!

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 6, 2023 7:39:36 GMT -6 shark86 and Whisky Beer Bob like this

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 6, 2023 7:39:36 GMT -6

Dec 5, 2023 21:27:02 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Dec 5, 2023 20:09:20 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

LOL...Poles worked the hand he was dealt...and man are you talking out both sides of your mouth when it comes to Pace. And YES...the Panthers would have traded up for #2...its been WIDELY reported that Poles had a deal worked out with Carolina to trade up to 2 after trading back to 2 with Houston. Houston wouldn't pull the trigger. So much for that narrative. Yes...first round picks are important...its why Poles got us an extra one this year and an extra 2nd next year. So much for THAT narrative. I really need the My Cousin Vinny clip to insert here..."I'm done with this guy now"

Whats your next narrative?

Love that movie! thanks for the reminder!

Hah! Thats the one! A crush on Marissa Tomei was born from that movie...one of my all time favorites.

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