Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 4, 2023 21:47:56 GMT -6

Post by mpbears68 on Dec 4, 2023 21:47:56 GMT -6

Dec 4, 2023 21:44:36 GMT -6 davidl said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:41:13 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

I don't think they are coming back. Now that I've learned Warren is really in charge and not a figurehead.

But it's ridiculous that they are still employed today. I saw what ownership did in January of 2021. They must be really good at "collaboration".

I need to see Warren in action before I am convinced he’s in charge.

Everything I have read indicates he's the real deal.

He's cleaning house on the coaching staff (thank God).

And that's probably not good news for Justin Fields. A new HC is gonna want a new QB.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 4, 2023 21:53:31 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Dec 4, 2023 21:53:31 GMT -6

Dec 4, 2023 21:47:56 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:44:36 GMT -6 davidl said:

I need to see Warren in action before I am convinced he’s in charge.

Everything I have read indicates he's the real deal.

He's cleaning house on the coaching staff (thank God).

And that's probably not good news for Justin Fields. A new HC is gonna want a new QB.

Yeah, I know there are reports. I need to hear the fat lady sing.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 4, 2023 21:57:18 GMT -6 shark86 and bears40 like this

Post by mpbears68 on Dec 4, 2023 21:57:18 GMT -6

Dec 4, 2023 21:53:31 GMT -6 davidl said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:47:56 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Everything I have read indicates he's the real deal.

He's cleaning house on the coaching staff (thank God).

And that's probably not good news for Justin Fields. A new HC is gonna want a new QB.

Yeah, I know there are reports. I need to hear the fat lady sing.

Circle Black Monday on your calendar.

As sickening as it is, I have to root for a loss in Green Bay in week 18 if there any chance whatsoever a win could save Glus' jobs.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 4, 2023 22:53:08 GMT -6 butkus3595 likes this

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Dec 4, 2023 20:59:33 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

If you think the person below you is "very incompetent" there shouldn't be any issues because that person should no longer be there. Either way, I think Poles has proven he's not incompetent.

I think folks are worrying too much. Unless and until we see otherwise, I figure Warren and Poles are on the same page. And we won't know who, if anyone will be fired until it happens. We just need to wait and see how this all plays out. Not worth any of us getting worked up about it now. FWIW, I figure Poles is going to be a good GM for us for many years to come. He has made some mistakes but that comes with the territory of hiring a young guy like we did. Expect some growing pains as he settles into the new job... he hasn't even been here 2 years yet.

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Post by Whisky Beer Bob on Dec 5, 2023 5:52:56 GMT -6

Didn't Warren help the turn around the Vikings including their Stadium? It's not like Warren just showed up one day. I think he was the one that brought in Speilman who in turned made some good moves for them.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 9:58:05 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 5, 2023 9:58:05 GMT -6

Dec 4, 2023 21:33:00 GMT -6 davidl said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:26:20 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

You would. There is ZERO proof that Poles is incompetent. If you can't admit that Poles did a good job orchestrating the tear down and has set this franchise on a path of future success with cap and draft resources as well as some good players to build around...well...thats certainly a you issue.

As I have said before, a trained chimp can tank the franchise for cap and draft picks.

Sure they can...the NFL landscape is littered with examples of franchises who have done it effectively...

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 10:01:45 GMT -6 JABF likes this

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 5, 2023 10:01:45 GMT -6

Dec 4, 2023 21:47:56 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:44:36 GMT -6 davidl said:

I need to see Warren in action before I am convinced he’s in charge.

Everything I have read indicates he's the real deal.

He's cleaning house on the coaching staff (thank God).

And that's probably not good news for Justin Fields. A new HC is gonna want a new QB.

Maybe. Justin Fields has shown enough and has more than enough tools that an incoming coach might look at him and the ability to add impact players right away with the draft and free agency and say "I am pretty sure I can win right away with this guy if we add MHjr and X,Y, Z players and that at the least earns me a contract extension"...

As for Warren and questions as to whether he's in charge...I don't know where people get the idea that George is bossing around GM's or presidents. I don't think he knows any better so he stays out of their way...which is part of the problem because previous to this he's hired some bad football people.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 10:03:08 GMT -6 shark86 likes this

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Dec 4, 2023 22:53:08 GMT -6 JABF said:

Dec 4, 2023 20:59:33 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

If you think the person below you is "very incompetent" there shouldn't be any issues because that person should no longer be there. Either way, I think Poles has proven he's not incompetent.

I think folks are worrying too much. Unless and until we see otherwise, I figure Warren and Poles are on the same page. And we won't know who, if anyone will be fired until it happens. We just need to wait and see how this all plays out. Not worth any of us getting worked up about it now. FWIW, I figure Poles is going to be a good GM for us for many years to come. He has made some mistakes but that comes with the territory of hiring a young guy like we did. Expect some growing pains as he settles into the new job... he hasn't even been here 2 years yet.

And for what its worth...EVERY GM makes mistakes...big ones at that. None of them are perfect and always make the right moves or only make small mistakes. Expecting otherwise is foolish.

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 10:44:25 GMT -6 shark86 and Whisky Beer Bob like this

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Dec 5, 2023 5:52:56 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob said:

Didn't Warren help the turn around the Vikings including their Stadium? It's not like Warren just showed up one day. I think he was the one that brought in Speilman who in turned made some good moves for them.

He is a very interesting guy. He has had a unique life-journey to this point, with a broad background that has made him a powerful sports executive. I don't think there is another person anywhere with his unique attributes. He was hit by a car as a small boy and it was thought that he would never walk again, much less play any sports. He was bed-ridden for months after that. But he did recover and he was actually a star basketball player at the University of Pennsylvania. He went on to get a law degree from Notre Dame. His dad and uncle were both exceptional college football athletes (his dad played professional football briefly in the 1940's, but in a now defunct league). Anyway, Warren is an attorney with a rich background of experience as a sports executive - really diverse, from attorney stuff to football executive administration, and then he really took the Big Ten to a whole different level as the Commissioner there (his "people skills" must be amazing to herd THAT group... like trying to herd cats - with all of the big-egos in those college presidents, athletic directors and coaches).

He is an impressive guy to listen to. He seems brilliant and a man with strong (extremely strong) leadership skills at the executive level. Here are a few articles about him.

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Kevin Warren: A natural born leader
A tragedy as a child and a diverse background in sports as an adult have given Minnesota Vikings COO Kevin Warren a unique and nurturing outlook on the industry — and on life.

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Kevin Warren’s Career: From College Athlete to NFL Executive
Kevin Warren is a name that has become synonymous with success in the world of sports management. From his humble beginnings as a college athlete to his current role as the commissioner of the Big Ten Conference, Warren’s career trajectory is a testament to his hard work, determination, and passion for the industry. In this article, we will take a closer look at Kevin Warren’s journey and the key milestones that have shaped his career.

They talk about his leadership style here:

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Warren Takes the Wheel for ALL Football Operations Dec 5, 2023 10:47:41 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob and butkus3595 like this

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Dec 5, 2023 10:03:08 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Dec 4, 2023 22:53:08 GMT -6 JABF said:

I think folks are worrying too much. Unless and until we see otherwise, I figure Warren and Poles are on the same page. And we won't know who, if anyone will be fired until it happens. We just need to wait and see how this all plays out. Not worth any of us getting worked up about it now. FWIW, I figure Poles is going to be a good GM for us for many years to come. He has made some mistakes but that comes with the territory of hiring a young guy like we did. Expect some growing pains as he settles into the new job... he hasn't even been here 2 years yet.

And for what its worth...EVERY GM makes mistakes...big ones at that. None of them are perfect and always make the right moves or only make small mistakes. Expecting otherwise is foolish.

+1,000 to that. And I would add that it would be tragic to ride out the first couple of "learning curve years" with Poles and THEN part ways with him. Right now the Bears are positioned to experience the return on that learning curve investment in this very young GM.

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