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Bears starting QB 2017 Nov 7, 2016 12:49:36 GMT -6 shark86, jamaisvu, and 1 more like this

Post by JABF on Nov 7, 2016 12:49:36 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 9:56:37 GMT -6 jamaisvu said:

Nov 7, 2016 9:31:00 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Actually it will be Hoyer-Shaw with the rookie on the PS.

It better not be.

If the QB we drafted makes it to the PS...that QB would have to be some 6th round bum. If Pace releases Cutler and only invests a late round pick in another QB, I will go down to Halas Hall and break his nose myself.

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If we draft a QB crappy enough to even MAKE it to the practice squad, then that's a big downer to me. It's time to cough up a bigtime draft pick on a guy so good that you wouldn't dream of putting him at risk on the PS. I'm tired of the David Fales, Nathan Enderle, Dan LeFevour types. Pace needs to pull up his big boy pants and draft us a QB for the post-Cutler era. I'm fine if the youngster holds a clipboard next year for Cutler, but at least get the guy in the pipeline.

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Post by jamaisvu on Nov 7, 2016 13:57:02 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 12:38:29 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Other option is over paying in the offseason (trade of FA) for a QB.

If there is truly no QB Pace thinks is his guy...the other option is to keep rolling with Jay Cutler.

If there is someone Pace believes is his franchise QB...he will get us in position to take him. The Floyd trade and moving all over the second round shows he is not afraid to manuver the draft slots.

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Nov 7, 2016 12:49:36 GMT -6 JABF said:

Nov 7, 2016 9:56:37 GMT -6 jamaisvu said:

It better not be.

If the QB we drafted makes it to the PS...that QB would have to be some 6th round bum. If Pace releases Cutler and only invests a late round pick in another QB, I will go down to Halas Hall and break his nose myself.

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If we draft a QB crappy enough to even MAKE it to the practice squad, then that's a big downer to me. It's time to cough up a bigtime draft pick on a guy so good that you wouldn't dream of putting him at risk on the PS. I'm tired of the David Fales, Nathan Enderle, Dan LeFevour types. Pace needs to pull up his big boy pants and draft us a QB for the post-Cutler era. I'm fine if the youngster holds a clipboard next year for Cutler, but at least get the guy in the pipeline.

You're going to be waiting a while then. Unless something changes the QBs in the 2017 draft are marginal prospects at best. What's worse is many teams are still hungry for any new QB they can get. So it's likely any QBs with any upside at all will be taken early leaving little to no talent in the latter rounds.

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Post by brasilbear on Nov 7, 2016 15:16:17 GMT -6

Maybe I'm crazy (I am a White Sox fan so....) but I just can't see a scenario where Cutler is here next season.

Cutler is gone because Pace wants a new QB (rookie/FA) to have a clear path to the starting job.
Cutler is gone because Fox wants Hoyer to start giving Fox a way to win games playing ball control with little risk.

About the only way I see Cutler here is if there is no one in the draft Pace likes and Pace forces Cutler on to Fox.

I keep batting around a post about how Pace/Fox/fans all see and value the future differently. Maybe when I can finally get settled in tonight I'll string something together.

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Post by shark86 on Nov 7, 2016 15:36:15 GMT -6

Cutler will be cheap next year.
Cutler will give us the best chance to win.
Poor prospects in draft.
Poor prospects in FA.
Cutler may or may not be a locker room hero/pain in the ass.
Cutler will be our starter next year. Unless we find somebody better.

I really don't think foxy believes hoyer gives us a better chance to win. If he does, boot foxy now.

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Post by JABF on Nov 7, 2016 15:52:37 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 14:46:41 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

Nov 7, 2016 12:49:36 GMT -6 JABF said:

+1
If we draft a QB crappy enough to even MAKE it to the practice squad, then that's a big downer to me. It's time to cough up a bigtime draft pick on a guy so good that you wouldn't dream of putting him at risk on the PS. I'm tired of the David Fales, Nathan Enderle, Dan LeFevour types. Pace needs to pull up his big boy pants and draft us a QB for the post-Cutler era. I'm fine if the youngster holds a clipboard next year for Cutler, but at least get the guy in the pipeline.

You're going to be waiting a while then. Unless something changes the QBs in the 2017 draft are marginal prospects at best. What's worse is many teams are still hungry for any new QB they can get. So it's likely any QBs with any upside at all will be taken early leaving little to no talent in the latter rounds.

It seems like we hear every year how bad the QB draft class is. But it's not always an accurate prediction. If Pace is the "real deal" as a GM, then he needs to be able to draft - especially at QB. Yes, it's not easy to draft well in the NFL. But if Pace can't get it done as our GM then we need somebody who can.

Cutler won't last forever. And frankly, if Pace won't even try to draft the position, then of course we'll never get a franchise QB. And I'm tired of the old David Fales, Nathan Enderle, Dan LeFevour types. Wannabee's. If we truly want a franchise QB then we have to pony-up a high draft pick.

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Post by hawkeye21 on Nov 7, 2016 16:08:15 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 15:16:17 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Maybe I'm crazy (I am a White Sox fan so....) but I just can't see a scenario where Cutler is here next season.

Cutler is gone because Pace wants a new QB (rookie/FA) to have a clear path to the starting job.
Cutler is gone because Fox wants Hoyer to start giving Fox a way to win games playing ball control with little risk.

About the only way I see Cutler here is if there is no one in the draft Pace likes and Pace forces Cutler on to Fox.

I keep batting around a post about how Pace/Fox/fans all see and value the future differently. Maybe when I can finally get settled in tonight I'll string something together.

Why does Cutler have to go though. If they felt they had to start a rookie QB they could still do that and keep Cutler. Just look at what Seattle did not too long ago. The Seahawks paid a bunch of money to get Matt Flynn and ended up starting Wilson over him. Worked out well too.

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Nov 7, 2016 16:08:15 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

Nov 7, 2016 15:16:17 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Maybe I'm crazy (I am a White Sox fan so....) but I just can't see a scenario where Cutler is here next season.

Cutler is gone because Pace wants a new QB (rookie/FA) to have a clear path to the starting job.
Cutler is gone because Fox wants Hoyer to start giving Fox a way to win games playing ball control with little risk.

About the only way I see Cutler here is if there is no one in the draft Pace likes and Pace forces Cutler on to Fox.

I keep batting around a post about how Pace/Fox/fans all see and value the future differently. Maybe when I can finally get settled in tonight I'll string something together.

Why does Cutler have to go though. If they felt they had to start a rookie QB they could still do that and keep Cutler. Just look at what Seattle did not too long ago. The Seahawks paid a bunch of money to get Matt Flynn and ended up starting Wilson over him. Worked out well too.

I agree. It would work out well if we started Wilson over Cutler for us too.

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Post by hawkeye21 on Nov 7, 2016 16:14:48 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 16:10:48 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Nov 7, 2016 16:08:15 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

Why does Cutler have to go though. If they felt they had to start a rookie QB they could still do that and keep Cutler. Just look at what Seattle did not too long ago. The Seahawks paid a bunch of money to get Matt Flynn and ended up starting Wilson over him. Worked out well too.

I agree. It would work out well if we started Wilson over Cutler for us too.

LOL. Wilson can be pretty good but I have a feeling he would have failed pretty hard with the Bears.

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Post by JABF on Nov 7, 2016 16:17:08 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2016 16:10:48 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Nov 7, 2016 16:08:15 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

Why does Cutler have to go though. If they felt they had to start a rookie QB they could still do that and keep Cutler. Just look at what Seattle did not too long ago. The Seahawks paid a bunch of money to get Matt Flynn and ended up starting Wilson over him. Worked out well too.

I agree. It would work out well if we started Wilson over Cutler for us too.

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