Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 9:10:03 GMT -6
Nov 1, 2016 0:56:24 GMT -6 @soulman said:
Oh but he is a big part of the problem and we all saw that tonight for the first time when the offense played a very un-Fox-like more adventurous game . Cutler made throws tonight Hoyer could only dream of and then only if it was a "wet dream".Ric the facts keep tripping you up brother. I don't know what you saw or have been seeing but it sure as hell is the polar opposite of what I have. For the first time this year that offense played with confidence knowing the could win and they did. That was Fox NOT controlling or micro managing the damn thing.
So much for them being more comfortable with Hoyer than Cutler. He played as well as he has in awhile because he had a running game and decent protection and he's capable of playing like that all the time once the cuffs come off and they give him an offense he can operate within his strengths. I didn't see any lack of leadership either. He owned it tonight.
Cutler had a good game, but it wasn't great, he per usual put the ball in danger at times, last night getting lucky enough that there wasn't a pick 6 on that bad throw to Jeffery on 3rd down.
This isn't just about distance, although I'd love to see Hoyer over throw Thompson the way Cutler did, it's also about velocity, trajectory, accuracy, and touch. To get a ball to a certain spot Hoyer has to put air under the ball and arc it there whereas Cutler just drills it home before the coverage can close on the receiver. Hoyer IS and timing passer because he has to be and Cutler isn't because he can be.
He made one risky throw early that hit AJ in the helmet. If AJ turned it's a catch. They were a little off early in the game but came on strong as a pair later on and he hit Miller wit some key passes into tight coverage all game long. If you can't see the difference in their arms and how a defense has to respect that in Cutler whereas they weren't in Hoyer there's nothing more I can tell you that would convince you either.
That's why I have ALWAYS doubted your ability to evaluate any QB, especially Cutler. You focus only on his mistakes or potential mistakes and you never pick up on the other stuff that makes him special. Look at how he was able to move around a bit and buy time to make some throws last night. Look at that Rodgers like shovel pass to Howard with a quick flick of the wrist just before they nailed him and another Miller failed to get to because he stumbled. That was a TD in the making because Miller was wide open and uncovered and Cutler threw it falling back with the rush in his face.
The actual best answer to your question is every throw he makes is one Hoyer can't make in that same way with the same velocity, trajectory, and accuracy.