Interesting...

I think the janitor that cleans the lockerroom has been there since 2001, maybe he's the problem. Fire him and things should pick up. This is what some of you sound like.

Or look at this this way. If you accept that Phillips influences on the field product, then you also believe:

(1) Fox took a job knowing he didn't have final control over the on the field personal. IE someone from the front office would be telling him who to start.

OK, so maybe you didn't mean that, maybe you meant the Phillips ordered Cutler back on the field. You then believe

(1) Fox was either called into Phillips' office, Phillips dropped by Fox's office, or Phillips sent a message (by text, phone call, email, carrier pigeon, lackey) telling Fox to start Cutler. AND you then have to believe that Fox just said ...OK and didn't

.....(a) quit
.....(b) throw Phillips out of his office
.....(c) kick Phillips butt.


(2) Meanwhile, Pace was too busy doing __________ to get involved.

If either one of those options are true then Fox deserves even less respect that I/we/you currently give him. I'm not saying Phillips deserves to keep his job, fire him, fire them all. But I'll guarantee that if Phillips is fired nothing changes. We are barking up the wrong tree. Cliff Stien has been here that long as well, are we firing him? What about the scouting directors (pro and college?) The scouts? Margie, who runs the cafeteria cash register? She's been there a long time.

If the cupboard was as bare as people think, than Pace deserves at least one or two more seasons to turn things around. Fox can go _____________ _________ with a _________ for all I'm concerned.

Or maybe I don't believe that and you are reaching to sustain your viewpoint.

Last post on this topic, then you guys can conspiracy theory to your hearts are content.

Current team presidents/CEOs of the National Football League
American Football Conference

Russ Brandon (Buffalo Bills)
Tom Garfinkel (Miami Dolphins)
Jonathan Kraft (New England Patriots)
Neil Glat (New York Jets)
Dick Cass (Baltimore Ravens)
Mike Brown (Cincinnati Bengals)
Paul DePodesta (Cleveland Browns)*
Art Rooney II (Pittsburgh Steelers)
Jamey Rootes (Houston Texans)
Jim Irsay (Indianapolis Colts)
Mark Lamping (Jacksonville Jaguars)
Tommy Smith (Tennessee Titans)
Joe Ellis (Denver Broncos)
Mark Donovan (Kansas City Chiefs)
Marc Badain (Oakland Raiders)
Dean Spanos (San Diego Chargers)
National Football Conference

Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys)
John Mara (New York Giants)
Don Smolenski (Philadelphia Eagles)
Bruce Allen (Washington Redskins)
Ted Phillips (Chicago Bears)
Rod Wood (Detroit Lions)
Mark Murphy (Green Bay Packers)
Mark Wilf (Minnesota Vikings)
Rich McKay (Atlanta Falcons)
Danny Morrison (Carolina Panthers)
Dennis Lauscha (New Orleans Saints)
Vacant (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
Michael Bidwill (Arizona Cardinals)
None (Los Angeles Rams)
Gideon Yu (San Francisco 49ers)
Peter McLoughlin (Seattle Seahawks)

So, which of these guys would we qualify as 'football guys?" There are a few, but as many as you think. Just wondering...


....was a high-technology executive, most notably as the Chief Financial Officer of both Facebook and YouTube as well as the Senior Vice President and Treasurer of Yahoo.

 ..........was employed with Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, and later became a partner of the D.C.-based law firm. He was also chairman of the firm's Business Transactions Section and a member of its Management Committee. 

....After working as a consultant at Bain & Company for two years, .......earned his MBA from Harvard Business School in 1990.

... spent five years with Chip Ganassi Racing Teams as Executive Vice President, overseeing all business operations of the 400-employee company. He negotiated more than $500 million in sponsorship and driver contracts that resulted in a 280 percent increase of annual company revenue during his tenure.

....was the athletic director at Wofford College from 1985 to 1997 and a senior vice president until 2001.

....  his career in the NFL with the Denver Broncos as their Director of Marketing from 1983 to 1985. ...rejoined the Denver Broncos in 1998 as the Broncos’ Executive Vice President of Business Operations.

OK, I lied, one more post, unless I can't help myself. I'm bored but need to stop before I reach trolling level.....

Wasn't McGinnis run off by Michael McCasky...who got fired and replaced by Phillips? Does Phillips get knocked for decisions he wasn't involved in?

There are posters here claiming Phillips pushed Fox to go back to Cutler. The rest is hyperbole to make a point.