My issue with Cutler isn't anything personal. It sort if is about the money, but more about the best interest of the team. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see Cutler standing up and becoming Josh McCown-lite. We had both QBs and the young players were talking up McCown as the guy that mentored and talked with them. Jay is who he is. I love the dude, love the personality, but at the end of the day, he isn't a winner. It sucks. He should be given an opportunity elsewhere, but it's time for a new direction at QB and for the Bears to wonder aimlessly where they know best... searching for the next one...
I'm not married to Jay Cutler. McCown works for me. I just don't want to see the new guy out there until he can handle it.
Problem is that with QB, I don't think I can recall a single instance of a QB that took a beating and played badly for a year or two that came out of it and played well. These guys typically don't do well when thrown in, but that's JMO
I don't think that this OL will allow at QB to take a beating for one; for two, Rogers was sacked 34, 50, 31, Joe Flacco 32, 36, 40, Big Ben, 30, 23, 46 in his first 3 years, Stafford 36, 29, 23 those are their sacks in their first 3 full years of starting(didn't count less then 11 or so games). And the Closing argument, Russell Wilson has been sacked no less then 33 times every year, last 4 years 40+ times that he's played.
So ya there are a few recent examples of qb's that have overcome getting "killed".
yeah. I get you. and maybe you are right. I would still like the option of playing him when he is ready and not when he has to.
I don't think that this OL will allow at QB to take a beating for one; for two, Rogers was sacked 34, 50, 31, Joe Flacco 32, 36, 40, Big Ben, 30, 23, 46 in his first 3 years, Stafford 36, 29, 23 those are their sacks in their first 3 full years of starting(didn't count less then 11 or so games). And the Closing argument, Russell Wilson has been sacked no less then 33 times every year, last 4 years 40+ times that he's played.
So ya there are a few recent examples of qb's that have overcome getting "killed".
yeah. I get you. and maybe you are right. I would still like the option of playing him when he is ready and not when he has to.
Why can't day 1 be when he's ready? Again, and maybe i'm wrong, but I have faith this Pace and this staff to get the job done if only b/c I have no reason to believe they cannot.
yeah. I get you. and maybe you are right. I would still like the option of playing him when he is ready and not when he has to.
Why can't day 1 be when he's ready? Again, and maybe i'm wrong, but I have faith this Pace and this staff to get the job done if only b/c I have no reason to believe they cannot.
Agreed, why waste a year of a cheap rookie deal for him to sit behind Cutler or a backup QB? If we're getting a QB then let's play him.
yeah. I get you. and maybe you are right. I would still like the option of playing him when he is ready and not when he has to.
Why can't day 1 be when he's ready? Again, and maybe i'm wrong, but I have faith this Pace and this staff to get the job done if only b/c I have no reason to believe they cannot.
it could be, but I bet the number of actual day 1 ready QBs is not very encouraging compared to the number that were picked to be day 1 ready. And I don't want to be hoping for another #3 pick to do this again. I want to start winning.
Why can't day 1 be when he's ready? Again, and maybe i'm wrong, but I have faith this Pace and this staff to get the job done if only b/c I have no reason to believe they cannot.
it could be, but I bet the number of actual day 1 ready QBs is not very encouraging compared to the number that were picked to be day 1 ready. And I don't want to be hoping for another #3 pick to do this again. I want to start winning.
It all depends on their off season prep work. Dak was not day 1 ready and needed to work on his mechanics and taking snaps from center, but he worked all offseason on it and was then day 1 ready.
its' up to the players work ethic and their natural ability, if they have the ability and the work ethic, and the coaches do their jobs no reason for them to not be ready, maybe they aren't at their ceiling, but being ready and being at their max are 2 different things; and they can never reach their ceiling w/out playing.
Listen I would have loved for them to draft a QB in rounds 1-4 over the past 4-7 years, to sit and develop, but they didn't and that time has well past.
it could be, but I bet the number of actual day 1 ready QBs is not very encouraging compared to the number that were picked to be day 1 ready. And I don't want to be hoping for another #3 pick to do this again. I want to start winning.
It all depends on their off season prep work. Dak was not day 1 ready and needed to work on his mechanics and taking snaps from center, but he worked all offseason on it and was then day 1 ready.
its' up to the players work ethic and their natural ability, if they have the ability and the work ethic, and the coaches do their jobs no reason for them to not be ready, maybe they aren't at their ceiling, but being ready and being at their max are 2 different things; and they can never reach their ceiling w/out playing.
Listen I would have loved for them to draft a QB in rounds 1-4 over the past 4-7 years, to sit and develop, but they didn't and that time has well past.
Just cuz the team didn't do what we think should have been done in the past, putting the burden on the new QB isn't the right solution. If developing is the right path, then it's the right path. Two wrongs won't make it right.
Listen I would have loved for them to draft a QB in rounds 1-4 over the past 4-7 years, to sit and develop, but they didn't and that time has well past.
Unfortunately, this is true. We don't have anyone who has or will get a chance to develop due to the need to win now. Even if we keep Cutler or roll the dice with Romo, chances are pretty good they'll be going down with an injury and we'll be forced to plug in someone who hasn't had the luxury of developing in the system. The important thing is to get someone young who they believe in and to surround him with the best people they can so he has a chance to succeed.
Continuing the Cutler carousel isn't going to solve anything and it's going to cost a lot of money. Cutler isn't the long or short term answer to our dilemma. He's an impediment to moving forward. He seems safe in the most mediocre of ways but that perceived safety isn't going to help this team's future.
It all depends on their off season prep work. Dak was not day 1 ready and needed to work on his mechanics and taking snaps from center, but he worked all offseason on it and was then day 1 ready.
its' up to the players work ethic and their natural ability, if they have the ability and the work ethic, and the coaches do their jobs no reason for them to not be ready, maybe they aren't at their ceiling, but being ready and being at their max are 2 different things; and they can never reach their ceiling w/out playing.
Listen I would have loved for them to draft a QB in rounds 1-4 over the past 4-7 years, to sit and develop, but they didn't and that time has well past.
Just cuz the team didn't do what we think should have been done in the past, putting the burden on the new QB isn't the right solution. If developing is the right path, then it's the right path. Two wrongs won't make it right.
It's not the burden of the new QB, it's his right. Why should we burden Hoyer or Barkley who have proven incapable, or burden Cutler who'll be looking over his shoulder now knowing he's really only hear until the new guy is up to speed.
Just cuz the team didn't do what we think should have been done in the past, putting the burden on the new QB isn't the right solution. If developing is the right path, then it's the right path. Two wrongs won't make it right.
It's not the burden of the new QB, it's his right. Why should we burden Hoyer or Barkley who have proven incapable, or burden Cutler who'll be looking over his shoulder now knowing he's really only hear until the new guy is up to speed.
His right to be a human pinata while he learns the ropes? na... not buying.