I was thinking about it this morning. Will the Bears (and fans) have the patience to see a draftee developed and not starting the first year? I thought of Green Bay letting Aaron Rodgers sit at first. Granted Cutler isn't Favre.
True. Cutty has never thrown 29 INTs in one season.
The QB to get the Bears above .500 is not on the roster yet and most likely will not be found before the season starts. A rookie is not going to get the Bears above .500. The only way any QB they have now or draft will get them above .500 is if the rest of the team is just that good, like the Cowboys.
How much would we have to spend to keep Hoyer? If he enters as the primary starter to start the season (maybe the whole season) before starting our 1st/2nd round QB, that'd be okay in my book. I have faith in Hoyer to guide this team to something close to .500, similar to what Cutler would do, but at a cheaper rate. I mean, do we not expect a QB within our first two picks? Obviously if we trade for a QB, Cutler is gone anyways.
I'm fine with Hoyer being the starter and having Barkley and a rookie behind him for next. In fact, that's what I expect will happen. I'm just saying I would be just fine with Cutler being the starter again with a rookie behind him. The only major difference I see is money which they already have plenty of. I feel some want him gone for personal reasons and not because they actually think the team is going to be a lot better.
I'm not fine w/any of that unless Hoyer is there until the bye week. All that is doing is delaying the inevitable. If we are going to suck, suck w/the future getting experience w/the knowledge it should get better. Don't go into the season knowing you are going to suck and doing it w/the same suck you did it w/last year.
It is looking like there are QB prospects in this draft class who could be solid at the NFL level, but also may require some development time. If we do draft one of these guys, would it make sense to just keep Jay for 2017?
I've been down with keeping him for another year, and as long as he is a good mentor, even a second year if necessary. He is not expensive and I want the new kid to be ready to roll.
I'm not fine w/any of that unless Hoyer is there until the bye week. All that is doing is delaying the inevitable. If we are going to suck, suck w/the future getting experience w/the knowledge it should get better. Don't go into the season knowing you are going to suck and doing it w/the same suck you did it w/last year.
Problem is that with QB, I don't think I can recall a single instance of a QB that took a beating and played badly for a year or two that came out of it and played well. These guys typically don't do well when thrown in, but that's JMO
Do you guys really want Cutler here? I know most might be scared to try and find our next QB but Cutler isn't something special. He's a .500 QB a best
I'm all ready to move on
For me, it's not about wanting Cutler here. It's about the best path to develop our new guy. Hell, I'd be great with bringing back Josh McCown to be the starter and mentor. Not expecting the starter to do more than keep us in games and make sure the new guy is solid when it's his time. A year. Two years. Whatever it takes. I want him to be good when it's his time. But it can't take more than two years or he is not the guy.
I was thinking about it this morning. Will the Bears (and fans) have the patience to see a draftee developed and not starting the first year? I thought of Green Bay letting Aaron Rodgers sit at first. Granted Cutler isn't Favre.
True. Cutty has never thrown 29 INTs in one season.
My issue with Cutler isn't anything personal. It sort if is about the money, but more about the best interest of the team. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see Cutler standing up and becoming Josh McCown-lite. We had both QBs and the young players were talking up McCown as the guy that mentored and talked with them. Jay is who he is. I love the dude, love the personality, but at the end of the day, he isn't a winner. It sucks. He should be given an opportunity elsewhere, but it's time for a new direction at QB and for the Bears to wonder aimlessly where they know best... searching for the next one...
The thing is we know what Cutler can do. He is no Bret Favre. What would our Rookie learn from him?
If we were to get a guy like Watson, you really telling me you rather have him sit behind a backup QB rather than get some experience that can help him grow as a NFL QB? Not to mention we will have a cheap QB for 4 years.
In today's NFL the days of sitting a QB behind is over:
Andrew Luck Cam Newton Carson Wentz James Winston Marcus Mariota Derek Carr Russell Wilson
I rather Cutler's 14 million go to another player to give us a better chance at winning. Heck we can use that money to overpay for AJ.
I'm not fine w/any of that unless Hoyer is there until the bye week. All that is doing is delaying the inevitable. If we are going to suck, suck w/the future getting experience w/the knowledge it should get better. Don't go into the season knowing you are going to suck and doing it w/the same suck you did it w/last year.
Problem is that with QB, I don't think I can recall a single instance of a QB that took a beating and played badly for a year or two that came out of it and played well. These guys typically don't do well when thrown in, but that's JMO
I don't think that this OL will allow at QB to take a beating for one; for two, Rogers was sacked 34, 50, 31, Joe Flacco 32, 36, 40, Big Ben, 30, 23, 46 in his first 3 years, Stafford 36, 29, 23 those are their sacks in their first 3 full years of starting(didn't count less then 11 or so games). And the Closing argument, Russell Wilson has been sacked no less then 33 times every year, last 4 years 40+ times that he's played.
So ya there are a few recent examples of qb's that have overcome getting "killed".