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Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 3, 2017 9:28:03 GMT -6

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Jan 3, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Jan 3, 2017 9:17:32 GMT -6 JABF said:

In fact, a great coordinator is probably not going to want to come here and work when it's for a HC on thin ice. A great coordinator has better options than coming to the Chicago Bears under John Fox - and a team without a solid QB. And I doubt we will have a solid QB day-1 this season. It will be some fuzz-faced kid that probably won't know his butt from a hole in the ground for awhile - or a deadbeat vet. I'll bet there is a good chance that Fox doesn't survive the second-half of this coming season if his team begins losing games right and left. He'll be gone by the bye week.

Then why did Gase come here? He had HC opportunities before his year here, yet he followed Fox here for a year to run an offense that could have sank any future HC opportunities. Same thing with Fangio. He had choices...yet he chose to come here over other teams that wanted him as their DC. I think everyone, with good reason, is a bit on edge here. The sky isn't falling.

The Gase situation was different. He came here year-1 of the Pace/Fox regime. It was definitely a better situation than after 2 years of crap fest here. Gase knew that Fox would be here beyond 1 season. We all knew that. But right now is a very different situation. Fox is on the thinnest of ice. I doubt if Gase would have come here in this present situation. I really do.

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Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 3, 2017 9:30:21 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Jan 3, 2017 9:30:21 GMT -6

Jan 3, 2017 9:25:49 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Except that less was still better than our less. Our talent was never equal to San Diego to begin with, and they didn't have an injury to the most important position on the field, QB, where we had to start a 4th stringer. So yeah, he won 5 games in San Diego...if we had Philip Rivers you don't think this team would have been better than it was?

So basically you're saying that if Cutty had played 16 games, we would've had a better record?

I don't necessarily disagree with you here, but then I wonder why so many people here still want him gone.

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JABF Administrator Posts: 19,933 Likes: 20,557	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 3, 2017 9:31:50 GMT -6 butkus3595 likes this Post by JABF on Jan 3, 2017 9:31:50 GMT -6 Jan 3, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -6 butkus3595 said: The sky has been falling for years here with the Bears. My head is sore :-) Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
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Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 0:52:24 GMT -6

Post by germansbombedph on Jan 4, 2017 0:52:24 GMT -6

Jan 3, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Jan 3, 2017 9:17:32 GMT -6 JABF said:

In fact, a great coordinator is probably not going to want to come here and work when it's for a HC on thin ice. A great coordinator has better options than coming to the Chicago Bears under John Fox - and a team without a solid QB. And I doubt we will have a solid QB day-1 this season. It will be some fuzz-faced kid that probably won't know his butt from a hole in the ground for awhile - or a deadbeat vet. I'll bet there is a good chance that Fox doesn't survive the second-half of this coming season if his team begins losing games right and left. He'll be gone by the bye week.

Then why did Gase come here? He had HC opportunities before his year here, yet he followed Fox here for a year to run an offense that could have sank any future HC opportunities. Same thing with Fangio. He had choices...yet he chose to come here over other teams that wanted him as their DC. I think everyone, with good reason, is a bit on edge here. The sky isn't falling.

By that time, Fox just signed a 4 year contract and wasn't on the hot seat. In fact, he could still get fired.

Jan 3, 2017 16:17:32 GMT 1 justanotherbearsfan9 said:

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Jan 3, 2017 15:06:28 GMT 1 germansbombedph said:
Something to think about:

Fox is on the heat seat and another year with 6 or less Ws will end his time here. Why should McCoy want to sign with the Bears for 1 year? Why should the Bears pay him much Money knowing they will fire him earlier
In fact, a great coordinator is probably not going to want to come here and work when it's for a HC on thin ice. A great coordinator has better options than coming to the Chicago Bears under John Fox - and a team without a solid QB. And I doubt we will have a solid QB day-1 this season. It will be some fuzz-faced kid that probably won't know his butt from a hole in the ground for awhile - or a deadbeat vet. I'll bet there is a good chance that Fox doesn't survive the second-half of this coming season if his team begins losing games right and left. He'll be gone by the bye week.

If you plan to fire him and expect it will happen, why wait that long instead of doing it now? We have Loggains as OC and holy shit why should a good coordinator consider us? Like you said, they won't.

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Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 7:38:55 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Jan 4, 2017 7:38:55 GMT -6

Jan 4, 2017 0:52:24 GMT -6 germansbombedph said:

Jan 3, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Then why did Gase come here? He had HC opportunities before his year here, yet he followed Fox here for a year to run an offense that could have sank any future HC opportunities. Same thing with Fangio. He had choices...yet he chose to come here over other teams that wanted him as their DC. I think everyone, with good reason, is a bit on edge here. The sky isn't falling.

By that time, Fox just signed a 4 year contract and wasn't on the hot seat. In fact, he could still get fired.

Jan 3, 2017 16:17:32 GMT 1 justanotherbearsfan9 said:

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Jan 3, 2017 15:06:28 GMT 1 germansbombedph said:
Something to think about:

Fox is on the heat seat and another year with 6 or less Ws will end his time here. Why should McCoy want to sign with the Bears for 1 year? Why should the Bears pay him much Money knowing they will fire him earlier
In fact, a great coordinator is probably not going to want to come here and work when it's for a HC on thin ice. A great coordinator has better options than coming to the Chicago Bears under John Fox - and a team without a solid QB. And I doubt we will have a solid QB day-1 this season. It will be some fuzz-faced kid that probably won't know his butt from a hole in the ground for awhile - or a deadbeat vet. I'll bet there is a good chance that Fox doesn't survive the second-half of this coming season if his team begins losing games right and left. He'll be gone by the bye week.

If you plan to fire him and expect it will happen, why wait that long instead of doing it now? We have Loggains as OC and holy shit why should a good coordinator consider us? Like you said, they won't.

Ok....if we're gonna play the what if game, perhaps McCoy figures, like Gase, if he does a good job in 1 year he'll have HC opportunities again. Hell...if Fox gets fired maybe he gets the gig here! Again, all this is conjecture on your part. Based on this we're never going to find any new coaches because who is going to want to come work for Fox for 1 year? I mean how is Todd Bowles going to get 5 new coaches to come work for him when they "know" he's going to be fired next year because they looked into their crystal ball and saw how many wins the team will have.

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germansbombedph Team Captain Posts: 1,317 Likes: 951	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 8:14:53 GMT -6 Post by germansbombedph on Jan 4, 2017 8:14:53 GMT -6 Last time we ended with Martz & Tice as OCs.... Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

butkus3595 Hall of Famer Posts: 6,805 Likes: 8,885	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 8:28:36 GMT -6 Post by butkus3595 on Jan 4, 2017 8:28:36 GMT -6 Jan 4, 2017 8:14:53 GMT -6 germansbombedph said: Last time we ended with Martz & Tice as OCs.... Jerry Angelo or Phil Emery still running this team? Lovie Smith still the coach? Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

hawkeye21 Team Captain Posts: 1,426 Likes: 1,771	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 13:33:03 GMT -6 Post by hawkeye21 on Jan 4, 2017 13:33:03 GMT -6 Matt Abbatacola just said on the Score that he honestly thinks McCoy is going to be on the Bears staff this year. Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

motm All-Pro Posts: 4,283 Likes: 2,007	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 13:35:31 GMT -6 Post by motm on Jan 4, 2017 13:35:31 GMT -6 I just don't see how we pass up on McCoy for Loggains... Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

mpbears68 Hall of Famer Posts: 9,137 Likes: 11,435	Mike McCoy has been fired Jan 4, 2017 18:27:21 GMT -6 Post by mpbears68 on Jan 4, 2017 18:27:21 GMT -6 Jan 4, 2017 13:35:31 GMT -6 motm said: I just don't see how we pass up on McCoy for Loggains... Sounds we just did. Sheer genius Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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