Some credit is due.

still waiting. 

Tell me again why we let NFC-N trolls on our board?

Lol at "Bears don't have any WRs.' I think that'd how you let people know you don't really watch the Bears or know anything about them.

WRs? ya it was an odd comment I allowed to slide. 

I do that to a lot of people TMP, it's why I proposed to my wife, she never seemed to get annoyed w/me. I like everything you state, even if I don't agree with it. 

But this is my point. Coaches don't make players, players make coaches. 100% agree w/all of it. Can coaches maximize players yes. can they help develop players yes. But Cutler never reached his potential b/c of him, not the coaches. Forte maxed his potential regardless of coaches. Marhsal was great regardless, ARob was good regardless, Monty was going to be good no matter the coaches.  Good to great players always show you what they are, regardless of coaches. Same w/bad ones. Bill Bellicheck, is the best example, failed HC for the Browns(who isn't) HoF HC w/NE when he had Brady, Gronk and all the other pro bowl/all pro players. Then fired when those players aged/out and left. He's the perfect life cycle of coaches. 

Cannot state this enough, and maybe it's a difference in expectations, I never wanted Flus, I live in IN he wasn't seen as a loss when he was hired by Chicago and I always felt like this was another HC forced onto a GM by the MC's and HH. But he has never lost the locker room and I 100% do not believe you can have a successful franchise moving through HC's every 3-4 years. I also do not believe if you are only going to hire young inexperienced GM's/HC's you have to let them fail early and look for growth. He's grown imo same w/Poles; and imo while Nagy never grew and only got worse, Pace did show improvement.

As long as Flus keeps growing and getting better I'm going to give him slack, it's year 3 and the first time in 3 years he's had the start of a quality roster and it looks good. Bum slayers as of now, but better then bums being slayed. If the team isn't getting cooked by 20-30 pts come div play i'll continue that. If his team is getting beat like that, I'll reserve my right to shift and jump on your he's garbage train.