There will be so much grabbing for QB, WR, and DE that Poles could trade down and still get Newton somewhere in the back half of the first round along with a second round pick to add a good WR. This would be a good trade down alternative to JPJ at trade down to 16-19 if Odunze is gone at #9.
BTW, I read that Poles might rate Verse over Turner at edge, because he’s stronger and better able to set the edge against running plays. I’ve seen the same complaint elsewhere about Turner. He’s great against the pass, but not as good vs. the run. My gut says Poles will sit at #9 and draft a DE. If we’re going for DL, I’d rather trade down for Newton plus 2nd round pick.
+1 There are good options no matter how the draft falls to us.
I was hoping we would be at 7, but we won a few more games than I thought we would. Originally I thought we would be at around 10 or 11 wins but as the season went on, Fields got injured and we went on our losing streak I thought we would do worse than we did. Fields came back after the injury and played pretty well.
7 would have been better, but 9 is not too shabby. Especially when you also have 1
+1 There are good options no matter how the draft falls to us.
I was hoping we would be at 7, but we won a few more games than I thought we would. Originally I thought we would be at around 10 or 11 wins but as the season went on, Fields got injured and we went on our losing streak I thought we would do worse than we did. Fields came back after the injury and played pretty well.
7 would have been better, but 9 is not too shabby. Especially when you also have 1
I still am stunned how Poles' traded down to get D.J. Moore and that #1 2024 draft pick - and a 2nd round 2024 pick that they traded for Montez Sweat. If Caleb Williams does end up being a great franchise QB, then the Poles move ended up getting Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore and Montez Sweat. And the Bears STILL have their #9 overall pick of the 2024 draft. That would be one of the greatest GM moves in Chicago Bears history. In fact it would probably be THE best. Then he trades our 2024 4th round draft pick for a Hall of Fame level WR, Keenan Allen.
I was hoping we would be at 7, but we won a few more games than I thought we would. Originally I thought we would be at around 10 or 11 wins but as the season went on, Fields got injured and we went on our losing streak I thought we would do worse than we did. Fields came back after the injury and played pretty well.
7 would have been better, but 9 is not too shabby. Especially when you also have 1
I still am stunned how Poles' traded down to get D.J. Moore and that #1 2024 draft pick - and a 2nd round 2024 pick that they traded for Montez Sweat. If Caleb Williams does end up being a great franchise QB, then the Poles move ended up getting Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore and Montez Sweat. And the Bears STILL have their #9 overall pick of the 2024 draft. That would be one of the greatest GM moves in Chicago Bears history. In fact it would probably be THE best. Then he trades our 2024 4th round draft pick for a Hall of Fame level WR, Keenan Allen.
That would go down as one of the best in NFL history, not just the Bears.
I still am stunned how Poles' traded down to get D.J. Moore and that #1 2024 draft pick - and a 2nd round 2024 pick that they traded for Montez Sweat. If Caleb Williams does end up being a great franchise QB, then the Poles move ended up getting Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore and Montez Sweat. And the Bears STILL have their #9 overall pick of the 2024 draft. That would be one of the greatest GM moves in Chicago Bears history. In fact it would probably be THE best. Then he trades our 2024 4th round draft pick for a Hall of Fame level WR, Keenan Allen.
That would go down as one of the best in NFL history, not just the Bears.
It will all come down to how Caleb Williams turns out. I keep thinking the Bears have a decent chance this time to get it right at QB. But obviously any player can disappoint and be a bust. Gotta admit it sure would be cool to have one of the best young guns at QB if Caleb would pan out. I can't even imagine in my wildest dreams how good that would feel because as a Bears fan we have never had that kind of guy at QB.
I was hoping we would be at 7, but we won a few more games than I thought we would. Originally I thought we would be at around 10 or 11 wins but as the season went on, Fields got injured and we went on our losing streak I thought we would do worse than we did. Fields came back after the injury and played pretty well.
7 would have been better, but 9 is not too shabby. Especially when you also have 1
I still am stunned how Poles' traded down to get D.J. Moore and that #1 2024 draft pick - and a 2nd round 2024 pick that they traded for Montez Sweat. If Caleb Williams does end up being a great franchise QB, then the Poles move ended up getting Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore and Montez Sweat. And the Bears STILL have their #9 overall pick of the 2024 draft. That would be one of the greatest GM moves in Chicago Bears history. In fact it would probably be THE best. Then he trades our 2024 4th round draft pick for a Hall of Fame level WR, Keenan Allen.
He didn't get a 2024 second round pick. He got a 2025 second round pick.
I still am stunned how Poles' traded down to get D.J. Moore and that #1 2024 draft pick - and a 2nd round 2024 pick that they traded for Montez Sweat. If Caleb Williams does end up being a great franchise QB, then the Poles move ended up getting Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore and Montez Sweat. And the Bears STILL have their #9 overall pick of the 2024 draft. That would be one of the greatest GM moves in Chicago Bears history. In fact it would probably be THE best. Then he trades our 2024 4th round draft pick for a Hall of Fame level WR, Keenan Allen.
He didn't get a 2024 second round pick. He got a 2025 second round pick.
He didn't get a 2024 second round pick. He got a 2025 second round pick.
+1 Thanks, motm. Good catch there. I was wrong...
But it doesn't change the fact that the 1st overall pick in 2023 was a franchise changer. Imagine if the Texans got it and still drafted CJ Stroud?
Tanking will always help your team out if you do it right. This is why I always say. Its better to be a horrible team than an average team going 9-8. You have a better shot of getting better talent.
But it doesn't change the fact that the 1st overall pick in 2023 was a franchise changer. Imagine if the Texans got it and still drafted CJ Stroud?
Tanking will always help your team out if you do it right. This is why I always say. Its better to be a horrible team than an average team going 9-8. You have a better shot of getting better talent.
Bryce Young hasnt done any franchise changing yet. Jury is still out.
If Odunze or Nabers are there at 9 you run the card up to the commish and don't think twice about it.
That’s easy. We are beyond that. The premise is what to do if the top-3 WRs, Alt, and Turner are gone before #9. You are welcome to join the discussion.
You were beyond that. Nobody brought that up but you.
I think 4 QB's are going top 10. I've been saying FOREVER, that if the top 3 receivers are gone I'm trading down...though I wouldn't be too upset if they stayed put and took Thomas Jr. or Verse. I'd be cool if they traded way down too and took Franklin or Adonai too and picked up a 2 and/or 3 to go with it.
Center just isn't as important a position as an Edge or a good 3 tech. There are good reasons centers aren't drafted in the first. And anyway there is no guarantee that he will be there just because you traded back.
He can also play guard. Think of him as interior offensive lineman, if that helps. Centers have been drafted 5 times in the first round in the last 6 drafts. I am pretty confident he’s going in the first round. There are no guarantees trading up or down more than one spot. You do have other players picked for the spot if you miss your primary target. I’d rather have JPJ than whatever DL is #2 on the list.
The league apparently isn't as high on JPJ as we all seem to be. He was injured at the Senior Bowl, and then didn't do a bunch of stuff at the combine.