Post by bearsinhouston on Mar 18, 2024 12:45:45 GMT -6
OK, the debate on whether or not they are keeping Fields is over (the debate as to whether or not they should have will continue throughout the season).
So, taking a look forward (no, not to the next debate on the board.... those come too fast and furious to track), I was thinking (well, I call it that... most people say hallucinating or just spewing shit) about the challenges of the next QB. Even though I think it is almost a lock going to be Williams, I have seen enough strange stuff that I am just going to say the next QB.
First, want to set the stage the same way as I had it this morning. I read this article on whether or not Williams even should come to the Bears. Personally, I think it is a good landing spot for him, but the author does make a point. The dysfunction in the Bears for developing a QB is legendary.
www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/is-caleb-williams-all-in-with-the-bears
With that out of the way, there are some decent points. We don't have a long term offensive mind here (well, not in sense that we all want "offensive mind" to mean anyway). The HC is a defensive coach and he is the only long term coach here (probably). If Waldron takes the new QB to new heights, he will be gone and the new QB will have to learn a new system again. This is a real consideration.
The new QB in Chicago will not have what I consider to be real veteran QB leadership to guide him. Bagent is essentially still a rookie and Rypien can't lead himself out of a mid sized paper bag. The more I have thought about this, the more I have become married to (perhaps engaged... well, at least a friends with benefits arrangement for sure) the idea of a new QB sitting for a few years. I have to admit that I was adamantly against sitting out for more than a season, but as bitter pill as it is, I have learned that the GB system just flat out works. I was against this because you lose two years of discount pay on a very expensive player. But if you can continue to generate (generational ?!) players every few years, then it's worth the salary hit. The new QB is not going to get this. He won't get veteran leadership nor the benefit of sitting and learning. Yeah, it's been done before, but it is extremely sub optimal in my view and setting the stage for failure. At least moving the odds in that direction. JMO, but it's how I feel on this.
The Chicago market is also a tough market. A popular QB was traded for let's face it, next to nothing. If whoever we bring in does not do better than JF by the end of this year, there is going to be enormous pressure on him and the coaching staff. The kid has to have the mental and emotional strength to deal with this. If the pick is Williams, there will be even more pressure because he is "generational" and will be expected to perform from the jump. It may not be reasonable, but I believe that will be the case. Again, in Chicago, we have not set the kind of environment that is conducive to a new QB.
As far as the pieces go though, I think Poles has done a good job of surrounding him with better than we had before. We have another stud WR, another TE, better C (I hope), so he has gone after the really weak spots and has done something about that. If you forget about the mental stuff (but do so only at your own peril, because this can and does break down even the best of us) the surrounding team is a great place for a #1 pick to land. Normally the #1 pick goes to the worst team, and while we have issues, we are nowhere near that category. Although the last part of the season wins had Fields at the helm and despite what anyone says, I believe that while he lost (more like didn't win) plenty of games for us, he was partially the reason why we won a bunch in the stretch. I am not sure that it is fair for a new guy to do that, but it is what it is. Whether or not it's fair, he is going to have to.
We have some challenges ahead of us, but it is an exciting time. I do wish we had a really creative offensive mind as our HC that would be here a while. I think this will challenge any consistency going forward in terms of our offense.
So, taking a look forward (no, not to the next debate on the board.... those come too fast and furious to track), I was thinking (well, I call it that... most people say hallucinating or just spewing shit) about the challenges of the next QB. Even though I think it is almost a lock going to be Williams, I have seen enough strange stuff that I am just going to say the next QB.
First, want to set the stage the same way as I had it this morning. I read this article on whether or not Williams even should come to the Bears. Personally, I think it is a good landing spot for him, but the author does make a point. The dysfunction in the Bears for developing a QB is legendary.
www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/is-caleb-williams-all-in-with-the-bears
With that out of the way, there are some decent points. We don't have a long term offensive mind here (well, not in sense that we all want "offensive mind" to mean anyway). The HC is a defensive coach and he is the only long term coach here (probably). If Waldron takes the new QB to new heights, he will be gone and the new QB will have to learn a new system again. This is a real consideration.
The new QB in Chicago will not have what I consider to be real veteran QB leadership to guide him. Bagent is essentially still a rookie and Rypien can't lead himself out of a mid sized paper bag. The more I have thought about this, the more I have become married to (perhaps engaged... well, at least a friends with benefits arrangement for sure) the idea of a new QB sitting for a few years. I have to admit that I was adamantly against sitting out for more than a season, but as bitter pill as it is, I have learned that the GB system just flat out works. I was against this because you lose two years of discount pay on a very expensive player. But if you can continue to generate (generational ?!) players every few years, then it's worth the salary hit. The new QB is not going to get this. He won't get veteran leadership nor the benefit of sitting and learning. Yeah, it's been done before, but it is extremely sub optimal in my view and setting the stage for failure. At least moving the odds in that direction. JMO, but it's how I feel on this.
The Chicago market is also a tough market. A popular QB was traded for let's face it, next to nothing. If whoever we bring in does not do better than JF by the end of this year, there is going to be enormous pressure on him and the coaching staff. The kid has to have the mental and emotional strength to deal with this. If the pick is Williams, there will be even more pressure because he is "generational" and will be expected to perform from the jump. It may not be reasonable, but I believe that will be the case. Again, in Chicago, we have not set the kind of environment that is conducive to a new QB.
As far as the pieces go though, I think Poles has done a good job of surrounding him with better than we had before. We have another stud WR, another TE, better C (I hope), so he has gone after the really weak spots and has done something about that. If you forget about the mental stuff (but do so only at your own peril, because this can and does break down even the best of us) the surrounding team is a great place for a #1 pick to land. Normally the #1 pick goes to the worst team, and while we have issues, we are nowhere near that category. Although the last part of the season wins had Fields at the helm and despite what anyone says, I believe that while he lost (more like didn't win) plenty of games for us, he was partially the reason why we won a bunch in the stretch. I am not sure that it is fair for a new guy to do that, but it is what it is. Whether or not it's fair, he is going to have to.
We have some challenges ahead of us, but it is an exciting time. I do wish we had a really creative offensive mind as our HC that would be here a while. I think this will challenge any consistency going forward in terms of our offense.
