My guess is, and it's all guessing, it was the difference of a 4th or 5th, or a 6th that could turn into a 4 if he plays. So not a huge difference. And I doubt they were offered a 4th. Backups aren't giving you high value; and the league sees him as a backup, for now.
He'll get his shot to start, just like every other 1st rd pick is always given.
I think that's probably how it went down. And once these players move on to other teams I'm all about focusing on the next guy up. That's all I care about now... the new guy.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
I think that's probably how it went down. And once these players move on to other teams I'm all about focusing on the next guy up. That's all I care about now... the new guy.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
Could've been like playing musical chairs and Poles was left without a chair to sit in.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
Could've been like playing musical chairs and Poles was left without a chair to sit in.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
Could've been like playing musical chairs and Poles was left without a chair to sit in.
I read an article that we were looking at Carson Wentz as our veteran mentor for CW.
That'd be better than Rypien. I'd be curious about Tannehill, too. Although I have no idea what these guys would cost. I don't want to spend TOO much on a QB2.
Agree - a cheap, but knowledgeable, rent a vet qb2 is ok.
I think that's probably how it went down. And once these players move on to other teams I'm all about focusing on the next guy up. That's all I care about now... the new guy.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
The Eagles traded a 3rd and a 7th for Pickett and a 4th. Please don’t cherry pick the data.
Well...to counter your point, yes it is because of bad coaching/leadership. Coaches/leadership should have taken Rex's size into account when they were projecting his success in the league, same with Russell and his work ethic/attitude. None of things were unknown. Both sets of coaches and GM's allowed themselves to get enamored with other things and ignored some pretty important pieces of data leading them to be over-drafted. Being picked earlier than you should be isn't the players fault...its the people making the picks. If I hire a bad employee, its MY fault for hiring them.
Further, there IS a reason why Justin didn't throw for 3k+ yards and 20-25 TD's this season. It's one I've said a million times...he only played in 13 games. If you average out his per game stats for 17 games, he throws for 3k+ yards and 20-25 tds. You can dismiss that REASON all you want, you can not like that REASON, but it doesn't change it from being a REASON.
Lastly, I really don't care whether you agree with me or not. Same goes for anyone else. My day will continue to be just fine. Its not my reason for posting, and I don't expect anyone to agree with what I have to say. They might, but I don't expect it. I know you believe your opinion is more valid than everyone else's...but it isn't. We all carry the same weight around here and our opinions are worth the same. And this isn't just a Justin Fields post. This goes for every player at every position. I'll throw Velus Jones out there as an example. You mean to tell me that there is NO way to get more out of his abilities than what the team has gotten thus far? NONE??!!! Reminds me of how we couldn't figure out how to get Corrdarelle Patterson involved on offense in Chicago. He goes to Atlanta and they figure out how to get 1000 yards of overall offense and 11 td's from him. There are far to FEW coaches in this league who will find out what their players do really, really well and work to utilize those strengths while developing them further. Thats why when the team was doing its OC search I said that they shouldn't reveal their plans at QB and make each candidate show how they would utilize each option at QB and cater to their strengths and what they do well.
Didn't have to take Bree's size into account in SD, and he did just fine.
Stop trying so hard to justify why JF was bad, and understand he was bad b/c he was bad. Could things have gone better for him if he ended up in a different situation, possibly. But a lot of the issues he had in yr 3 were issues he had in college; guess what, that's a him issue not a coaching/leadership issue. He didn't put the work into his game the way he needed to.
Jim Miller talked about this; and he's a huge supporter of Fields. He said he was never more disappointed in JF then when he said he just wanted to play free. Miller said that told him he wasn't putting in the work to learn the O and the def he was playing against; b/c when you know those 2 things you play free. That's a Fields issue. Was Fields THE problem, no, nor was Mitch. But he was A problem and there was no solving that problem unless he solved it himself.
Just like most failed players, they didn't put work into what they needed to do to perfect their game. You've been watching long enough, you should know this, and learned it, same way I did.
Did Bree's stay in San Diego? Rex had a lot more limitations than just size. But you go ahead and simplify however you want. Stop trying to justify so hard why Justin was bad and understand why it happened. See how that goes...it works for you too. And neither you, nor Jim Miller know shit about the work JF put in. There isn't a person in the world who questioned Fields work ethic until Jim said that. If Fields work ethic was crappy, he wouldn't have the respect of his teammates like he does. In order to learn something, an effective teacher is needed. I used to struggle with math when I was a kid, until I finally had a teacher who figured out what I needed to learn the concepts and master them. After that, I never got below a B again in math. Nothing said so far actually refutes anything I said. If I hire a bad employee who's fault is it? The employees? No...its mine for hiring them in the first place.
Who knows what really happened? A Raiders insider swears the Raiders and 4 other teams wanted Fields, but Poles price was a first or second, so they all walked away and took some other QB. Considering that the Eagles paid a 3rd and 7th for Pickett, I can’t believe they didn’t offer more than 6th for Fields. He would be an excellent backup for Hurts.
The Eagles traded a 3rd and a 7th for Pickett and a 4th. Please don’t cherry pick the data.
