Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 18:03:33 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Feb 5, 2024 18:03:33 GMT -6

mpbears68 had the idea of starting a thread to discuss these videos - one for OFFENSE and another for DEFENSE. So let's give this a try. I know a number of us really enjoy these videos, so I'm looking forward to this. And thanks, MP for the idea.

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paytonisgod Starter Posts: 973 Likes: 1,209	Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 19:28:31 GMT -6 JABF likes this Post by paytonisgod on Feb 5, 2024 19:28:31 GMT -6 Here's the link for the Offense Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 21:16:38 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

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Feb 5, 2024 19:52:30 GMT -6 davidl said:

Feb 5, 2024 19:28:31 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

Here's the link for the Offense

Brax is not “average”.

I was struck by that too. I prob would have put him one notch up from there but Lucas is right that Brax didn't have a great 2023.

I wouldn't rule out drafting a LT at #9. Not my personal preference but I could see it happening.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 21:55:23 GMT -6

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Feb 5, 2024 21:16:38 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Feb 5, 2024 19:52:30 GMT -6 davidl said:

Brax is not “average”.

I was struck by that too. I prob would have put him one notch up from there but Lucas is right that Brax didn't have a great 2023.

I wouldn't rule out drafting a LT at #9. Not my personal preference but I could see it happening.

This order…
1. Nabers or Odunze if not already gone.
2. Edge rusher.
3. OL.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

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Feb 5, 2024 21:16:38 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Feb 5, 2024 19:52:30 GMT -6 davidl said:

Brax is not “average”.

I was struck by that too. I prob would have put him one notch up from there but Lucas is right that Brax didn't have a great 2023.

I wouldn't rule out drafting a LT at #9. Not my personal preference but I could see it happening.

Maybe go with Brax this year and if we need an upgrade there, then address that in 2025. The guy has enough floor to give him this upcoming season.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 22:48:30 GMT -6

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Feb 5, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 JABF said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:16:38 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

I was struck by that too. I prob would have put him one notch up from there but Lucas is right that Brax didn't have a great 2023.

I wouldn't rule out drafting a LT at #9. Not my personal preference but I could see it happening.

Maybe go with Brax this year and if we need an upgrade there, then address that in 2025. The guy has enough floor to give him this upcoming season.

Brax’s pass blocking grade was 81.7. Nothing “average” about that. Ranked 6th in the league. He’s also an excellent run blocker on sweeps.

His overall grade was better than Wright, Dawand Jones, or Broderick Jones.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 22:53:16 GMT -6 AlexM and riczaj01 like this

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Feb 5, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 JABF said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:16:38 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

I was struck by that too. I prob would have put him one notch up from there but Lucas is right that Brax didn't have a great 2023.

I wouldn't rule out drafting a LT at #9. Not my personal preference but I could see it happening.

Maybe go with Brax this year and if we need an upgrade there, then address that in 2025. The guy has enough floor to give him this upcoming season.

I'm ok with giving Brax another year. But I could see a scenario where Alt is BPA at #9 depending on how the picks go. But Brax is gonna have to improve for next year if he wants to get his money.

That's about the only conundrum on offense for me. Otherwise I know who I am keeping and who I am not. I'd like to see Poles sign 1 and draft 2 receivers (WRs/TEs). I'm done with Velus.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 5, 2024 22:57:26 GMT -6

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Feb 5, 2024 22:53:16 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 JABF said:

Maybe go with Brax this year and if we need an upgrade there, then address that in 2025. The guy has enough floor to give him this upcoming season.

I'm ok with giving Brax another year. But I could see a scenario where Alt is BPA at #9 depending on how the picks go. But Brax is gonna have to improve for next year if he wants to get his money.

That's about the only conundrum on offense for me. Otherwise I know who I am keeping and who I am not. I'd like to see Poles sign 1 and draft 2 receivers (WRs/TEs). I'm done with Velus.

Center should be the highest priority on the OL.

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Hoge & Jahns with Josh Lucas Video Comments: OFFENSE Feb 6, 2024 8:43:36 GMT -6 AlexM, riczaj01, and 1 more like this

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Feb 5, 2024 22:48:30 GMT -6 davidl said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 JABF said:

Maybe go with Brax this year and if we need an upgrade there, then address that in 2025. The guy has enough floor to give him this upcoming season.

Brax’s pass blocking grade was 81.7. Nothing “average” about that. Ranked 6th in the league. He’s also an excellent run blocker on sweeps.

His overall grade was better than Wright, Dawand Jones, or Broderick Jones.

Yeah, I love the guy, but those grades are not accurate. Especially with OL. Brax has definitely struggled at times. That is what this guy is talking about. He is not a bad player but he is not where he ultimately needs to be to stay at LT here. And I 100% believe he will show improvement this 3rd season. It often takes offensive linemen and TE's too for that matter, 3 seasons to get the game down at the NFL level. That's why I just shake my head when folks are critical of these guys their rookie season in particular. That is notw who they are - or going to be. They are "works in progress" for a few years.

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