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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 22:25:12 GMT -6 JABF likes this

Post by riczaj01 on Jan 20, 2024 22:25:12 GMT -6

Jan 20, 2024 20:18:51 GMT -6 JABF said:

Jan 20, 2024 20:00:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

You sound like my wife, I'm always wrong somehow, but actually not.

LOL. The frustrating thing for me, Ric, is that usually Mrs JABF ends up being right. Some day I'll tell 'ya the story about dropping the tree on the roof of our old home about 25 years ago. She said it was gonna be a bad idea. It might hit our home... and it was a 60 or 70 foot tree about 4 feet in diameter at the trunk. All us guys in the neighborhood had big honking ropes... I patiently explained to Mrs JABF about how it was "all about the cutting with the chain saws... the tree was going to harmlessly fall AWAY from the house. We made the final cut. All the men in the neighborhood tugged on those ropes - and that tree decided it was gonna fall on my roof. We were like tiny ants trying to get that tree to fall the way WE wanted it to fall. And the tree damned near took out our neighbor's home too. I was lucky it only clipped the roof near our bedroom corner of the home. It could have crushed most of our home.

I listened to Mrs JABF more often after that one (I have other stories... it usually doesn't go well when I don't listen... bad things happen :-)

I've been wrong plenty, but not 1/2 as much as she acts 8p. And I have more then a few stories where she should have listened to me.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 21, 2024 21:40:16 GMT -6

Post by shark86 on Jan 21, 2024 21:40:16 GMT -6

Jan 21, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -6 motm said:

A bit old but you look at this and say Justin Fields is my guy? He's causing his own sacks.

Yes, sometimes he causes his own sacks. but sometimes the rushers are through the LOS as the ball gets to Fields hands. Tough to not get sacked when the O-line is so bad and Getsy uses a 185 pound dude to block a 280 pound rusher, and the WRs can't or won't run the right route and get open.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 21, 2024 21:47:09 GMT -6

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Jan 21, 2024 21:40:16 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Jan 21, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -6 motm said:

A bit old but you look at this and say Justin Fields is my guy? He's causing his own sacks.

Yes, sometimes he causes his own sacks. but sometimes the rushers are through the LOS as the ball gets to Fields hands. Tough to not get sacked when the O-line is so bad and Getsy uses a 185 pound dude to block a 280 pound rusher, and the WRs can't or won't run the right route and get open.

Yes he does. And Waldron has shown it can be coached. He can't be the only person that can help with that.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 21, 2024 22:40:57 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 21, 2024 22:40:57 GMT -6

Jan 21, 2024 21:40:16 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Jan 21, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -6 motm said:

A bit old but you look at this and say Justin Fields is my guy? He's causing his own sacks.

Yes, sometimes he causes his own sacks. but sometimes the rushers are through the LOS as the ball gets to Fields hands. Tough to not get sacked when the O-line is so bad and Getsy uses a 185 pound dude to block a 280 pound rusher, and the WRs can't or won't run the right route and get open.

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Fields is doing 4+ seconds... He's doing it to himself. Only 1 sack during that tweet was less than 4 seconds. He is horrible at processing the game.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 21, 2024 22:51:14 GMT -6 shark86 likes this

Post by bearsinhouston on Jan 21, 2024 22:51:14 GMT -6

Jan 21, 2024 22:40:57 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 21, 2024 21:40:16 GMT -6 shark86 said:

Yes, sometimes he causes his own sacks. but sometimes the rushers are through the LOS as the ball gets to Fields hands. Tough to not get sacked when the O-line is so bad and Getsy uses a 185 pound dude to block a 280 pound rusher, and the WRs can't or won't run the right route and get open.

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Fields is doing 4+ seconds... He's doing it to himself. Only 1 sack during that tweet was less than 4 seconds. He is horrible at processing the game.

Do we have data that shows it is his processing, vs not having open targets? I get that most of what is posted is opinion, but wondering how much real analysis is out there? I think this is another one of those where we see the result (too many sacks due to holding the ball too long) but have not gotten to the root cause.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 21, 2024 23:01:59 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 21, 2024 23:01:59 GMT -6

Jan 21, 2024 22:51:14 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 21, 2024 22:40:57 GMT -6 motm said:

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Fields is doing 4+ seconds... He's doing it to himself. Only 1 sack during that tweet was less than 4 seconds. He is horrible at processing the game.

Do we have data that shows it is his processing, vs not having open targets? I get that most of what is posted is opinion, but wondering how much real analysis is out there?

Who knows, it could be both. Like I said before, Field has talent when it comes to running. One of the best I've seen and I get why people want to keep him. Let me ask you something. If Fields was playing for the Chiefs tonight. Would they still have won? Fields is a below average QB who is the worst QB in the NFC North. Giving Fields another chance isn't giving him one more year but two more years. Do you really trust chock artist Fields 4th quarter performance to win us big games?

Its crazy a QB like Jared Goff might be going to his second Super Bowl and he really isn't that talented of a QB in the NFL. He is still much better than Fields.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 22, 2024 5:49:42 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Jan 22, 2024 5:49:42 GMT -6

Jan 21, 2024 22:51:14 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 21, 2024 22:40:57 GMT -6 motm said:

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Fields is doing 4+ seconds... He's doing it to himself. Only 1 sack during that tweet was less than 4 seconds. He is horrible at processing the game.

Do we have data that shows it is his processing, vs not having open targets? I get that most of what is posted is opinion, but wondering how much real analysis is out there? I think this is another one of those where we see the result (too many sacks due to holding the ball too long) but have not gotten to the root cause.

Other than the Backup UDFA rookie being able to do it; no. But it did show that the OL and WR's and play calling all appeared better, even if the qb was lesser.

Part of being open is timing of the play and the qb looking and being able to throw it before the player is actually open; ie throwing the wr open, remember that term from a long while ago, Brady was king at it. WR has to do their job, and the QB has to be ready when that WR does what he's supposed to do.

Problem is, NO ONE, not former qb's, not former nfl players, not "all 22 experts" can tell you what the play was and how the players were supposed to run it; other than guys tripping and running into eachother; and those are player issues 100% of the time.

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