Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter......

We had these same debates over and over with Cutler and with Trubisky.  For years they tried to "fix Jay" with new OCs and new receivers.  You can argue they could have done a better job of it and I won't dispute you on that.  But they did try.  

Even when they assembled a great offense with Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, and Forte (3 of those being easily top-10 players at their position, probably top-5), Cutler still never ascended into the upper tier of QBs.  Josh McCown outplayed him for a stretch while Jay was hurt.

We went thru a similar thing with Mitch.  Both these guys went on to play somewhere else and both were the same ole Jay/Mitch at their new homes.  

I've heard this arguments (excuses for the QB not being good enough, lets be honest) a million freakin' times.  

When Justin gets traded in April, its likely he's gonna go to a team that isn't "ready".  Maybe it's New England, Vegas (he'd at lest have Adams there), Tennessee, or Denver.  Whoever it is, that team is gonna have major holes.  Holes like 95% of teams seeking QBs tend to have.

Point is, it's not likely his next destination is gonna be a lot better.  He had 2 good receiving weapons as you said along with a good running game and an improving defense and still couldn't sniff 3000 yards.  

Should we pass on the #1 pick and run it back with him again just hoping for a miracle 50% jump?

Same thing I heard with both Cutler and Trubisky. 

When do we fault the player himself? What everyone who defends Fields keep saying is to create a super team around him in order for him to look like a Upper tier QB. We can't do that in the cap era. No team is perfect and all teams have holes in them. Mahomes made it work and got a Super Bowl when he lost his best WR. You think the Chiefs were panicking when Hill left? 

No cause they have a QB who is good enough to win it. You put Josh Allen on this team and we be in the playoffs easily. Heck Jared Goff is a huge upgrade over Fields and he's a mid tier QB.

Fields at best is a backup QB. Trade him now when some team might be desperate enough to use him for 2 years. 

IF we stick with Fields hypothetically, lets say we trade down to #3 and get MHJ + extra picks.  I imagine they will go DL/DE with the #9 pick in that scenario but who knows....say they go Brock Bowers at #9 and add a C in the 2nd.

In that case, I don't want to hear one freaking excuse for Fields not being a clear top-10 QB.  He would have a new OC, new C, 2 stud WRs and 2 stud TEs.  That's way more to work with than Josh Allen or even Mahomes had last night.  If Fields can't be a 4000 yard passer with that, then he's utterly hopeless.  I'd be curious to see that season and my expectations will be justifiably HIGH.

But, I think that's a pipe dream.  I can't see Ryan Poles risking his career on a below-average passer he didn't draft when he has Caleb Williams there for the taking with the #1 pick.  Particularly after passing on CJ Stroud and seeing other NFCN QBs play really good ball in the playoffs.

The Bears are behind right now at QB (a familiar place unfortunately).  If they stand pat with Fields and he does NOT make a major jump, they risk being buried in the basement of the division for another 15 years.

It really is. I haven't been this excited since the 2018 offseason when we picked up Khalil Mack. 

Two first round picks, both in the top 10. One is the #1 overall pick. Very deep WR draft. Some decent FA names out there as well.