Im glad u boys are 100% sure on Jr being a superstar. Unfortunately, it doesnt work that way.
He's about as close to a sure thing as you can get. Performance and pedigree. As I've said before...at worst he's his dad.
I agree with that. But, again, it doesnt really work that way. My kid had 1 of 5 million kids chance to get her diagnose. She did. There is no sure thing.
He's about as close to a sure thing as you can get. Performance and pedigree. As I've said before...at worst he's his dad.
I agree with that. But, again, it doesnt really work that way. My kid had 1 of 5 million kids chance to get her diagnose. She did. There is no sure thing.
That is heartbreaking about your daughter. You point is a good one about no sure thing.
Yes, Fields has improved. I'm disappointed he hasn't improved MORE.
Yes, "you can win with him". I'm disappointed that isn't way more obvious.
Last weekend we beat a team with perhaps the worst pass defense in the NFL this season. And Fields was.....underwhelming once again IMO despite every factor being in his favor. It was classic Fields. The "Full Fields experience" as Hoge puts it all in one game yet again. We know by now what Fields is and it was on full display -- the good and the bad.
Some great runs and sweet downfield throws and a whole lotta meh beyond that. Against a terrible defense at home he managed to throw for barely above 50%, sub-200 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. He continues to suck in the 4th quarter like he has his whole pro career (Fields has the 2nd most 4th Q INTs and a bunch of fumbles too). Justin's average gameday passing stat line since coming to the league is:
He gets over 200 ypg when you add in rushing but yeah that not's real impressive overall. You aren't gonna beat many good teams with numbers like that.
Yes, Fields has improved. I'm disappointed he hasn't improved MORE.
Yes, "you can win with him". I'm disappointed that isn't way more obvious.
Last weekend we beat a team with perhaps the worst pass defense in the NFL this season. And Fields was.....underwhelming once again IMO despite every factor being in his favor. It was classic Fields. The "Full Fields experience" as Hoge puts it all in one game yet again. We know by now what Fields is and it was on full display -- the good and the bad.
Some great runs and sweet downfield throws and a whole lotta meh beyond that. Against a terrible defense at home he managed to throw for barely above 50%, sub-200 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. He continues to suck in the 4th quarter like he has his whole pro career (Fields has the 2nd most 4th Q INTs and a bunch of fumbles too). Justin's average gameday passing stat line since coming to the league is:
He gets over 200 ypg when you add in rushing but yeah that not's real impressive overall. You aren't gonna beat many good teams with numbers like that.
I agree with all of this. Seems like he needs a bunch of awesome cast around him to win. At least I hope so, as we never saw any consistent winning last 3 years
Yes, Fields has improved. I'm disappointed he hasn't improved MORE.
Yes, "you can win with him". I'm disappointed that isn't way more obvious.
Last weekend we beat a team with perhaps the worst pass defense in the NFL this season. And Fields was.....underwhelming once again IMO despite every factor being in his favor. It was classic Fields. The "Full Fields experience" as Hoge puts it all in one game yet again. We know by now what Fields is and it was on full display -- the good and the bad.
Some great runs and sweet downfield throws and a whole lotta meh beyond that. Against a terrible defense at home he managed to throw for barely above 50%, sub-200 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. He continues to suck in the 4th quarter like he has his whole pro career (Fields has the 2nd most 4th Q INTs and a bunch of fumbles too). Justin's average gameday passing stat line since coming to the league is:
He gets over 200 ypg when you add in rushing but yeah that not's real impressive overall. You aren't gonna beat many good teams with numbers like that.
I agree with all of this. Seems like he needs a bunch of awesome cast around him to win. At least I hope so, as we never saw any consistent winning last 3 years
Fields needs to be better. He says the same thing. His development was stunted to some extent by not having the cast around him to succeed (coaching and also player talent). Any good QB1 needs the best talent around him that you can possibly give him. I am not saying perfect talent, because nobody gets that. But there is a threshold for a guy to reach his QB1 ceiling. This year the Bears are better on offense talent. Not there yet, because the team still needs a few pieces added. The coaching is still bad at OC. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. If Caleb or any of these QBs coming to the NFL in 2024 had come to the Bears when Fields did - not one of them would have overcome the issues here in Chicago. They would probably not done as well as Fields did because Fields DOES have freak physical gifts.
I have said this before. If Mahomes had come here instead of to a loaded KC team and Andy Reid (also allowed to carry a clipboard for a season and learn behind a seasoned veteran) - Mahomes fails here. I 100% believe he would be gone now. That's just reality here in Chicago. Now, I do believe the offense has added some talent (not there yet on the OL especially with the flip flopping of guys in the first half of the season due to injuries). Doing better now. Not then. Fields can "now" try to develop with at least DJ Moore and part of an OL in place.
Yes, Fields has improved. I'm disappointed he hasn't improved MORE.
Yes, "you can win with him". I'm disappointed that isn't way more obvious.
Last weekend we beat a team with perhaps the worst pass defense in the NFL this season. And Fields was.....underwhelming once again IMO despite every factor being in his favor. It was classic Fields. The "Full Fields experience" as Hoge puts it all in one game yet again. We know by now what Fields is and it was on full display -- the good and the bad.
Some great runs and sweet downfield throws and a whole lotta meh beyond that. Against a terrible defense at home he managed to throw for barely above 50%, sub-200 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. He continues to suck in the 4th quarter like he has his whole pro career (Fields has the 2nd most 4th Q INTs and a bunch of fumbles too). Justin's average gameday passing stat line since coming to the league is:
He gets over 200 ypg when you add in rushing but yeah that not's real impressive overall. You aren't gonna beat many good teams with numbers like that.
I agree with all of this. Seems like he needs a bunch of awesome cast around him to win. At least I hope so, as we never saw any consistent winning last 3 years
Every QB needs an awesome cast around them to win. Name me the QB that wins without one. We haven't seen consistent winning the last 3 years because before this year the talent on this roster was dog water.
I agree with all of this. Seems like he needs a bunch of awesome cast around him to win. At least I hope so, as we never saw any consistent winning last 3 years
Every QB needs an awesome cast around them to win. Name me the QB that wins without one. We haven't seen consistent winning the last 3 years because before this year the talent on this roster was dog water.
He is citing statistics for this year, not last year. I am basically on your side in this debate, but he has a point. Does Stroud have an “awesome cast”? Let’s deal with his argument straight up. I posted my defense of Fields, and it’s a bit different. I concede MP some of his points.
Post by butkus3595 on Dec 30, 2023 18:52:43 GMT -6
Not doing as deep a dive this week in my notes...but how many times do you think I've written "nobody open" or "these route combos SUCK" in my notes through 3 drives so far?
Not doing as deep a dive this week in my notes...but how many times do you think I've written "nobody open" or "these route combos SUCK" in my notes through 3 drives so far?
Let's see, 3 drives. So 9 plays (assuming 3 and outs). So 9 times?
