Okay, the death-march to the end of the regular season continues. Next up we have the Cards in town. What do you expect in THIS one? Are the Bears better off losing and just helping with the house-cleaning of the ENTIRE coaching staff at the end of the season? And really, it is now down to getting the 2 best first round draft picks. The Panthers better stop the winning stuff too, now.
Yes. You cannot build any winning culture on these Cards. To lose is a better option now. Also, I would not play any vets that wont be here next year. Example, no to Whitehair, yes to Carter.
Okay, the death-march to the end of the regular season continues. Next up we have the Cards in town. What do you expect in THIS one? Are the Bears better off losing and just helping with the house-cleaning of the ENTIRE coaching staff at the end of the season? And really, it is now down to getting the 2 best first round draft picks. The Panthers better stop the winning stuff too, now.
Would losing to Cards and Falcons be enough to get Poles fired? Probably not. So I don’t care too much about losing those games, but I do want to beat the Packers in the final game because, well, they are the Packers, and it would really help set the tone going into 2024.
Okay, the death-march to the end of the regular season continues. Next up we have the Cards in town. What do you expect in THIS one? Are the Bears better off losing and just helping with the house-cleaning of the ENTIRE coaching staff at the end of the season? And really, it is now down to getting the 2 best first round draft picks. The Panthers better stop the winning stuff too, now.
Would losing to Cards and Falcons be enough to get Poles fired? Probably not. So I don’t care too much about losing those games, but I do want to beat the Packers in the final game because, well, they are the Packers, and it would really help set the tone going into 2024.
Would losing to Cards and Falcons be enough to get Poles fired? Probably not. So I don’t care too much about losing those games, but I do want to beat the Packers in the final game because, well, they are the Packers, and it would really help set the tone going into 2024.
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I agree. By tanking in 2022, he made himself bulletproof through 2024 on the grounds that he deserves time for his “haul” of draft picks and free agents acquired with his $100 million to play out (or not). Now he can trade Fields (not his “guy” so can’t blame him for the Fields draft) and draft a new QB. That move effectively resets the clock, because he deserves a couple more additional years to know whether his rookie QB will develop into a legit QB1. That takes us out to at least 2026 before he can be fired even if Bears are 3rd or 4th in the division in 2024 and 2025. It completely obviates my “Super Bowl ready by 2025” benchmark for judging Poles performance.
I agree. By tanking in 2022, he made himself bulletproof through 2024 on the grounds that he deserves time for his “haul” of draft picks and free agents acquired with his $100 million to play out (or not). Now he can trade Fields (not his “guy” so can’t blame him for the Fields draft) and draft a new QB. That move effectively resets the clock, because he deserves a couple more additional years to know whether his rookie QB will develop into a legit QB1. That takes us out to at least 2026 before he can be fired even if Bears are 3rd or 4th in the division in 2024 and 2025. It completely obviates my “Super Bowl ready by 2025” benchmark for judging Poles performance.
I still keep thinking that we may see everyone back here in 2024 except for Luke Getsy. Not saying it will happen but that we don't really know what this new CEO is going to do. The fan base will be crazy angry about it. But I would not be surprised.
Getting totally off topic here... but I was listening to Hoge & Jahns today and the guy they had on there was NOT a fan of Maye. Said he was not on the same tier as Caleb Williams. And it sounded like neither may be as good as the guy we already have - if Fields was in a system that was built to his strengths with an offensive coordinator or head coach who understood how to build an offense that was geared to his strengths. He specifically mentioned the Eagles OC if he gets the HC gig in say, Atlanta, could team up with Fields and absolutely ball with that offense. But here, the Bears seemed to not really want a "Fields type" of QB1. They never really tried to fit the offense to the strengths of the players. The old "square peg in the round hole" thing we've seen here in Chicago... the franchise is so messed up and has been for decades now. I keep hoping that Warren can be the guy who understands how to fix it all.
I agree. By tanking in 2022, he made himself bulletproof through 2024 on the grounds that he deserves time for his “haul” of draft picks and free agents acquired with his $100 million to play out (or not). Now he can trade Fields (not his “guy” so can’t blame him for the Fields draft) and draft a new QB. That move effectively resets the clock, because he deserves a couple more additional years to know whether his rookie QB will develop into a legit QB1. That takes us out to at least 2026 before he can be fired even if Bears are 3rd or 4th in the division in 2024 and 2025. It completely obviates my “Super Bowl ready by 2025” benchmark for judging Poles performance.
I still keep thinking that we may see everyone back here in 2024 except for Luke Getsy. Not saying it will happen but that we don't really know what this new CEO is going to do. The fan base will be crazy angry about it. But I would not be surprised.
Getting totally off topic here... but I was listening to Hoge & Jahns today and the guy they had on there was NOT a fan of Maye. Said he was not on the same tier as Caleb Williams. And it sounded like neither may be as good as the guy we already have - if Fields was in a system that was built to his strengths with an offensive coordinator or head coach who understood how to build an offense that was geared to his strengths. He specifically mentioned the Eagles OC if he gets the HC gig in say, Atlanta, could team up with Fields and absolutely ball with that offense. But here, the Bears seemed to not really want a "Fields type" of QB1. They never really tried to fit the offense to the strengths of the players. The old "square peg in the round hole" thing we've seen here in Chicago... the franchise is so messed up and has been for decades now. I keep hoping that Warren can be the guy who understands how to fix it all.
That's kind of how I'm leaning too. Fields may be good enough with more talent and a decent OC who can scheme his players strengths. The draftees next year don't look that promising so run with fields, grab mhj and a stud C. See what fields looks like with a true OC a better o-line and a new weapon or 2.
Hate to say it but it's time to flush flus and way past time to fire getsy. If fields is the guy, he'll have to prove it in another new system.
Not sure if beating or losing to the cardinals addresses any of our problems unless we get embarrassed to the point flushing flus is a no brainer for poles and warren. His game decisions in crucial situations are atrocious .