Could also depend on the formation they were in. There might not have been a pass play to check to or one that would have worked based on what the defense was showing. There's more to it than just "check to a pass play...any pass play."
I have seen veteran QBs call timeouts when a play is called in that obviously can’t work. Better than just wasting a play.
I've seen coaches do it too. Getsy is allowed to be in Fields ear until there is 15 seconds on the clock...shouldn't the coach know more than anyone whether a play will work or not?
I have seen veteran QBs call timeouts when a play is called in that obviously can’t work. Better than just wasting a play.
I've seen coaches do it too. Getsy is allowed to be in Fields ear until there is 15 seconds on the clock...shouldn't the coach know more than anyone whether a play will work or not?
He knew the play would not work. He didn’t care. They just wanted to run into that brick wall to take time off the clock.
People are getting this figured out. Nobody wanted to draft JSN. Nobody wanted to pick up a vet WR (Hopkins, Ridley, etc.) to give Fields another reliable target. The whole plan was that Claypool and Mooney would show something different in 2023 than they showed in 2022. This is one more indicator of Poles incompetence.
Jalen Ramsey shutdown corner was also available. He had two interceptions yesterday. Other teams get quality players in FA. Poles went into it with $100M and look what we got.
Ramsey was not a FA...he was traded from the Rams to the Dolphins because he wanted to play for a contender. He would not have come to Chicago. He then agreed to a contract extension with Miami to lower his cap number. Again, not a viable option for Poles or the Bears.
And its not that nobody wanted to draft JSN. I talked all pre-draft about how much I liked JSN, but we needed an offensive lineman. Wright was the RIGHT pick and he's proved it.
Ramsey wasn’t FA, but he was available. Peter King predicted in March,2023 that Rams would trade him to Raiders. They aren’t SB contenders. Poles had more cap space than Miami.
KC got Taylor in FA. Could have drafted Dewand Jones in second round. He grades better than Wright in pass protection. That would have allowed JSN in first round.
I admit it is possible. That would be even more damning on Getsy's scheme if it's a unkillable play.
But...Bagent changed the play multiple times when he played as a UDFA rookie from a tiny school. I find it hard to believe that Fields wouldn't have this authority.
Hey, I'm just a dumb fan but even I was screaming at my TV that Detroit was selling out to stop the run and packing the box. IT WAS OBVIOUS.
Zero creativity and zero killer instinct there by the coaching staff and Fields should have changed both those calls at the line.
Could also depend on the formation they were in. There might not have been a pass play to check to or one that would have worked based on what the defense was showing. There's more to it than just "check to a pass play...any pass play."
Run outside then
Better yet, run Fields outside with an RPO
ANYTHING else
The dumbest meatball fan could see in advance that what they ran was not going to work. If Getsy's formation doesn't include any flexibility whatsoever then that says a lot about his talents and ingenuity as an OC, doesn't it?
Worst case scenario, run the play clock down to 1 and call timeout to reset. The plays they ended up running had approx. 0.0000000% chance of working.
It's impossible to overstate how unimaginative and incompetent the entire Bears operation was in that last 5 minutes. This is supposed to be a professional football organization. That was terrible football.
The military equivalent would have been for the allies to pick the most heavily defended area of beach and announce in advance exactly where they were going to land on D-Day.
Ramsey was not a FA...he was traded from the Rams to the Dolphins because he wanted to play for a contender. He would not have come to Chicago. He then agreed to a contract extension with Miami to lower his cap number. Again, not a viable option for Poles or the Bears.
And its not that nobody wanted to draft JSN. I talked all pre-draft about how much I liked JSN, but we needed an offensive lineman. Wright was the RIGHT pick and he's proved it.
Ramsey wasn’t FA, but he was available. Peter King predicted in March,2023 that Rams would trade him to Raiders. They aren’t SB contenders. Poles had more cap space than Miami.
KC got Taylor in FA. Could have drafted Dewand Jones in second round. He grades better than Wright in pass protection. That would have allowed JSN in first round.
MAybe he had a no trade clause and would only agree to certain teams. Not everyone wants to come to Chicago as Martellus Bennett ranted about on Twitter.
Just because you say it. Doesn't mean it will happen. You always seem to have the answers but have no clue what the questions are.
Ramsey was not a FA...he was traded from the Rams to the Dolphins because he wanted to play for a contender. He would not have come to Chicago. He then agreed to a contract extension with Miami to lower his cap number. Again, not a viable option for Poles or the Bears.
And its not that nobody wanted to draft JSN. I talked all pre-draft about how much I liked JSN, but we needed an offensive lineman. Wright was the RIGHT pick and he's proved it.
Ramsey wasn’t FA, but he was available. Peter King predicted in March,2023 that Rams would trade him to Raiders. They aren’t SB contenders. Poles had more cap space than Miami.
KC got Taylor in FA. Could have drafted Dewand Jones in second round. He grades better than Wright in pass protection. That would have allowed JSN in first round.
I don't care what Peter King predicted, Ramsey was not going anywhere but Miami. Here's the reporting on it:
"The first time Mulugheta raised the Dolphins to Ramsey, the corner responded that, yes, that was a place he’d go. Quickly, his feelings on going to Miami would grow stronger.
But one reason some teams had trepidation about trading for him—he’ll turn 29 in October, and it’s rare that corners keep dominating well into their 30s—also gave him perspective not just to fixate on the on-field stuff. As such, having played in warm weather in college at Florida State, and in the pros in Jacksonville and Los Angeles, the right climate mattered. What was best for daughters certainly did too (like their dad, they like warm weather).
In taking all of it into account, boxes kept checking for Miami. His stance hardened. “I’m not going anywhere but there,” he told Mulugheta. “So make sure that’s where I end up.”"
Chiefs did a switcharoo on Taylor by saying he would play left tackle and then moved him to right...and then benched him for a while because he couldn't stop committing penalty's. I don't know what they're PFF grades are, but a quick check overall says Wright grades out better than Jones. Wright was the right pick, and Marvin Harrison Jr is the right pick this year.
Ramsey wasn’t FA, but he was available. Peter King predicted in March,2023 that Rams would trade him to Raiders. They aren’t SB contenders. Poles had more cap space than Miami.
KC got Taylor in FA. Could have drafted Dewand Jones in second round. He grades better than Wright in pass protection. That would have allowed JSN in first round.
MAybe he had a no trade clause and would only agree to certain teams. Not everyone wants to come to Chicago as Martellus Bennett ranted about on Twitter.
Just because you say it. Doesn't mean it will happen. You always seem to have the answers but have no clue what the questions are.
I had already thought of that. I did a little search for a no trade clause or a statement from Ramsey. Didn’t find anything. What I do know is that money talks, and Poles had lots of it to offer. Back when I was told Hopkins would not play for the Bears, I said it is Poles’ job to convince free agents that he has a genius plan to dig out of this roster he created, take the North, and win a Super Bowl.
This is why I want us to get Marvin Harrison Jr. I wouldn't even care if we used the #1 overall pick for him. We need more than one person to throw the ball too. I'm glad you're starting to realize Mooney isn't the answer. Some people want to pay him 10 million dollars to disappear on the field.
Thats the going rate for #3 receivers in the league. I already showed you that.
I take a cheap 3 round rookie who can produce just as much as Mooney.
Ramsey wasn’t FA, but he was available. Peter King predicted in March,2023 that Rams would trade him to Raiders. They aren’t SB contenders. Poles had more cap space than Miami.
KC got Taylor in FA. Could have drafted Dewand Jones in second round. He grades better than Wright in pass protection. That would have allowed JSN in first round.
I don't care what Peter King predicted, Ramsey was not going anywhere but Miami. Here's the reporting on it:
"The first time Mulugheta raised the Dolphins to Ramsey, the corner responded that, yes, that was a place he’d go. Quickly, his feelings on going to Miami would grow stronger.
But one reason some teams had trepidation about trading for him—he’ll turn 29 in October, and it’s rare that corners keep dominating well into their 30s—also gave him perspective not just to fixate on the on-field stuff. As such, having played in warm weather in college at Florida State, and in the pros in Jacksonville and Los Angeles, the right climate mattered. What was best for daughters certainly did too (like their dad, they like warm weather).
In taking all of it into account, boxes kept checking for Miami. His stance hardened. “I’m not going anywhere but there,” he told Mulugheta. “So make sure that’s where I end up.”"
Chiefs did a switcharoo on Taylor by saying he would play left tackle and then moved him to right...and then benched him for a while because he couldn't stop committing penalty's. I don't know what they're PFF grades are, but a quick check overall says Wright grades out better than Jones. Wright was the right pick, and Marvin Harrison Jr is the right pick this year.
Better do your quick check again. Wright has allowed 6 sacks and 8 penalties. Jones numbers are 2 and 2. He has long arms and big hands. Wright has short arms, small hands, and pretty slow feet. He has been beaten by speed rushers all season. However, he’s an excellent run blocker. BYW, the other Jones (Brodrick) has allowed 1 sack and 1 penalty in 300+ snaps.
MAybe he had a no trade clause and would only agree to certain teams. Not everyone wants to come to Chicago as Martellus Bennett ranted about on Twitter.
Just because you say it. Doesn't mean it will happen. You always seem to have the answers but have no clue what the questions are.
I had already thought of that. I did a little search for a no trade clause or a statement from Ramsey. Didn’t find anything. What I do know is that money talks, and Poles had lots of it to offer. Back when I was told Hopkins would not play for the Bears, I said it is Poles’ job to convince free agents that he has a genius plan to dig out of this roster he created, take the North, and win a Super Bowl.
See my above direct quotes from Ramsey after doing a quick search on the trade.
