A little over what I hoped for, but its there. Very interested how its structured, would like to see it upfronted. So glad we got a legit DL guy now. Billings is solid too, hoping for Gervon to develop strongly.
I was told that he was going to FA b/c he held all the cards and was going to make Bosa like money. 24.5 mil is in the 21-25 mil I thought, and a bit higher then the 23 mil of Crosby last year, which also isn't out of line. At no point will that "break the cap" of the Bears, or is it "elite DE pass rusher money"
Good deal for a good player. Now lets get JJ set up on either FT or a deal in the 16-18mil range.
A little over what I hoped for, but its there. Very interested how its structured, would like to see it upfronted. So glad we got a legit DL guy now. Billings is solid too, hoping for Gervon to develop strongly.
Kinda close on guarantees to what I thought. The key is the signing bonus which will be divided over 4 years. Methinks it will be between 20-25M and maybe a high year 1 guaranteed base salary. I think he gets a roster bonus as well.
As yes brasilbear I admit I f'd up on the hot take.
I'm not worried that he's getting resign. That's a given. I'm worried Poles will have to overpay because he didn't plan this out. Sweat holds all the cards.
FT? Sure. 20+ million first time. FT Tag them again? Add another 20% to their last FT. Sweat wins in the end of the deal. Any decent GM would hold the cards in his favor. This GM is the opposite. Now if JJ is on board as well. It comes a nightmare as can Poles really justify losing another home grown talent?
I hate to give 40% of the cap or whatever someone pointed out to two good players when this team isn't close to competing yet. We got another 2 years easily.
W/a cap of 240,000,000 how are those two going to be 40% of the cap, that would be those 2 making 96mil next year. Who thinks those 2 are getting 96mil? If both were to get FT'd somehow they would not be 40% of the cap.
JJ and Sweat are actually very similar players, I'm not sure how you want one so badly and don't worry about over paying him, while fretting and pissing your pants about the other?
JJ is a really good CB that doesn't get turnovers, Sweat is a really good DE that doesn't get sacks; but way more sacks then JJ gets turnovers. Both should be on the team next year and likely will be. Neither is going to get overpaid or hurt the cap in any meaningful way. Neither is going to get a Mack like deal that F's the future of the team.
NEITHER hold all the cards b/c the NFL doesn't allow players to EVER hold all the cards.
I've been trying to say this since the trade happened. THANK YOU!
Also, I have no idea where the hell that 40% number comes from...like how does that math work out?
W/a cap of 240,000,000 how are those two going to be 40% of the cap, that would be those 2 making 96mil next year. Who thinks those 2 are getting 96mil? If both were to get FT'd somehow they would not be 40% of the cap.
JJ and Sweat are actually very similar players, I'm not sure how you want one so badly and don't worry about over paying him, while fretting and pissing your pants about the other?
JJ is a really good CB that doesn't get turnovers, Sweat is a really good DE that doesn't get sacks; but way more sacks then JJ gets turnovers. Both should be on the team next year and likely will be. Neither is going to get overpaid or hurt the cap in any meaningful way. Neither is going to get a Mack like deal that F's the future of the team.
NEITHER hold all the cards b/c the NFL doesn't allow players to EVER hold all the cards.
I've been trying to say this since the trade happened. THANK YOU!
Also, I have no idea where the hell that 40% number comes from...like how does that math work out?
You can play w/the numbers via advanced math enough to likely come out w/that somehow. But it doesn't, at no way point or time 2/the #'s being floated could you look at 240mil cap and 20ish and 20tops at 40%. Its just people throwing rage bait to get people that are mad to ragebait with them.
This is a good deal, well in line w/what Rashan Gary got last month, one is a OLB in a 3-4 the other is a 4-3 DE. Neither put up huge sack #'s, but Sweat is overall better at getting behind the LoS and doing damage. He should get paid more. Best part about this deal; some of the contract money comes off in 2023, so even if the Bears COULD have got him in FA in 2024 for this contract, it's still not as good as having it done now.
And he was never seeing FA. DC was going to keep him, or trade him to Atl, his agent said they basically had everything worked out w/Atl, so my guess is his agent gave the Bears that deal, they okayed it or made some minor changes and boom deal done. I do feel bad that Sweat didn't get to go home in Atl, but he's a pro making 20+ mil a year, and he'll likely make a shit ton more in Chicago in side hustles. I won't feel bad for long for a guy that is younger, healthier, wealthier, and better looking then me. =)
I'm late to the party. I see 14 pages? Yeah, there's definitely some controversy here. 😂
I, for one, am absolutely pumped about Sweat. The more I argue with ppl on Twitter, the more information I find, the more excited I am to have Sweat on the team.
If I had to grade the trade/contract, it's a B. The only thing bringing it down is that 2nd round pick. That's the cost of exclusive discussion with the player you want. Luckily Poles has managed the cap & draft picks as well as he has.
Sweat looks like a force multiplier I can't wait to see his impact on Yannick, Walker, and the rookie DTs.
I'm late to the party. I see 14 pages? Yeah, there's definitely some controversy here. 😂
I, for one, am absolutely pumped about Sweat. The more I argue with ppl on Twitter, the more information I find, the more excited I am to have Sweat on the team.
If I had to grade the trade/contract, it's a B. The only thing bringing it down is that 2nd round pick. That's the cost of exclusive discussion with the player you want. Luckily Poles has managed the cap & draft picks as well as he has.
Sweat looks like a force multiplier I can't wait to see his impact on Yannick, Walker, and the rookie DTs.
Well, it was only his first game with a new team with limited practice, but he didn't look all that impressive. Yet. Thursday should give us a better feel. I expect he'll do much better.
My biggest concern with Sweat was he's coming from a Dline where he was "a guy" and now is on the Chicago Dline and is expected to be "the guy".
Well that "guy" had the most sacks on that D Line, and his former team didn't have ONE sack today. Thats right...ZERO...ZIP...NADA!! The Commanders had ZERO sacks today.
