Post by davidl on Oct 11, 2023 13:03:00 GMT -6
I do not need a history of Bears vs. Seahawks historical records. I have been a fan of both teams for a LONG time. Whatever happened before Poles arrived is pretty irrelevant to what I am talking about. Seahawks won 7 games in 2021. Bears won 6 games.
I would say those teams were about equal in playing ability. So, then what did they do to improve in 2022? Poles did a complete tear down, getting rid of some good football players in order to get $100 million cap space and the #1 draft pick. You are damn right that John Schneider didn’t do that. He is too smart for that. What he did do is trade his two future Hall of Fame players (Wilson and Wagner) while they still had some value. He got some good, young players out of that, and even got back Wagner this year.
Lions did something similar with their franchise QB. They didn’t just trade for Goff. They got two first round picks and a third round. I will agree with you on one point: they sucked for years previously. However, doesn’t really matter how Poles compares to their GM from years ago. He may be better than the Lions GM in 2017. Who cares? What matters is how well he is competing now against GMs since he got the job. That is why I am focused on the 2021-2023 period.
No they were not about equal in playing ability, they were never close. Again that is completely dishonest.
They got rid of a qb that wasn't working for them, got draft capital in return and got a capable qb. How does compare to the Bears in any shape way or form? The Bears at no time had a qb they could trade for picks + another qb.
You are going out of your way to create comparisons of teams that are not comparable to create an argument that is at best dubious. Is this what university life has taught you? That you can manipulate information and people are expected to just believe it? Doesn't work in the real world.
I agree with Ric that the Lions have sucked for many years prior to 2021. Having said that, I note that only 5 of their current roster were on the team prior to 2021. The big transition, in fact, started in 2021, not just with the Goff trade, but in that 10 of the current starters arrived in 2021 (45%).
I will also note that 36% (8) of their starters came via trade or free agents. In addition to their first round picks, they have one second round pick, three third round picks, and two fourth round picks (including St. Brown).
Disclaimer: These numbers are approximations, as starting roster is subject to change due to injuries, etc.