What would their record be if Cutler was healthy all season.

I'm sorry...maybe it is the heavy joyful drinking watching the Cubs game, but i really don't know what the f##k you mean in that lol 

All i'm saying is Jay is still Jay. I really hate these TV shows...i am not a fan of either...came across it on a YouTube search for the replay of the full game, and for some reason i am using their conversations AGAIN because they present some views i completely agree with.

Well if you're trying to sell me on this and anyone else who knows much about the game then you best find someone better than Skip Bayless and The Mouth from the South to plead your case.  I already told you how even Bronco fans feel about Sharpe's opinions.  Just shove a mic in front of him and he'll say whatever you ask him to say and Bayless is considered a complete joke and an arrogant idiot by most everyone.  His lack of pro level knowledge has been exposed so many times I shocked he still has a job.  He's a click bait opinion guy just like Rosenrant.  Two peas in a pod most days.

ESPN hates Cutler but even this guy has to admit that when the team plays well and it's not up to just him to win in a shootout he wins games.  Lots of games.

Ric wants to claim that even last night he made some dangerous throws.  Well ya' know all QBs do that and the better ones make them payoff because if you don't make any throws but the safe ones like Hoyer did you won't win many games.  The end zone is inside the 20 yard line and Hoyer does his best work outside the 20 which is why he couldn't win the Indy and Jax games but about 90% of knowledgeable fans figure Jay probably could have.

My other point here is that only a handful (4 or 5 at most) of NFL QBs can win shootouts and Cutler isn't one of them because he's never had the type of offense or protection that would allow for that.  Jim McMahon wouldn't have won many shootouts either. 

But when we stop expecting Cutler to win all by himself and he gets some support he does win far more often than he loses.  But to see and understand that requires some research and analytical skills far beyond what Shannon Sharpe or Skip Bayless are capable of and several million more Bears fans as well who'll believe whatever assholes like these guys say on TV but are too lazy to dig up facts themselves or even watch other games to see other QBs doing the same dumb things Cutler does at times but thinking he's the only one who does them.

Talk about a bunch of fucking ostriches. Don't be one of them that's all I'm saying.

Jay Cutler is 46-8 when he gets help from his defense
by Bryan Perez

Much has been made of Bears quarterback Jay Cutler's 51-49 record as a starter in Chicago, but after watching him lead his team to an upset victory over the Vikings in Week 8, it's hard to fathom how a player as talented as he is can only be slightly above .500.

Dig deeper and you'll find out why.

Mike Sando of ESPN tweeted a chart that showed Cutler's win-loss record in games which his defense played well and games that the defense played poorly. The results are pretty astonishing.

Defense does matter. All numbers in chart are since 2006. @chicagobears pic.twitter.com/cz7oeBPeUK

— Mike Sando, ESPN.com (@sandoespn) November 1, 2016

Since 2006 -- Cutler's rookie season -- the veteran is 46-8 when his defense surrendered 20 points or less in a game. The results aren't so pretty when opposing teams scored 21 or more, as Cutler's record plummets to 22-62.

The chart isn't broken down to Bears-specific games, but the bigger picture view of Cutler's career shows that if his defense gives him a chance, he's an elite winner. An 85-percent winning percentage is nothing short of insane.

The numbers proved correct in Week 8. Chicago's defense gave up only 10 points to the Vikings and Cutler delivered the win. He played mistake-free football, in part, because he didn't have to quarterback with a must-score mentality.

Love him or hate him, Cutler is going to be the Bears' quarterback for the foreseeable future. With no viable alternative on the roster, and with performances like last night's that prove his value, it would be a complete shock if Cutler was not the starter in Chicago in 2017 and beyond.

The main reason I started this thread wasn't really to say that Cutler is good or bad or anything like that. The reason I started it was to bring attention to the fact that having a competent QB makes a huge difference. Having a QB that has some balls makes a difference. Playing safe can be very helpful but you still need that killer instinct. Every great QB in history will say that you can't be afraid to throw an INT, you just can't. Turnovers are going to happen but you still have to take some risks.

I think a hybrid of Cutler and Hoyer would make for a pretty solid QB.