How all 31 First-round picks have played this season

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 11:10:02 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

Post by njbearsfan on Oct 30, 2016 11:10:02 GMT -6

Oct 28, 2016 13:47:37 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I don't think anyone expected Floyd to have a huge year; and I think we all knew that he shouldn't have seen as much time early on as he did.

No one questioned Dallas's OL as great. But I'll question anything PFF thinks when it comes to OL and DL b/c they have proven a laughable joke at it, and have admitted that they don't take into account scheme. If they don't take into account scheme how can they balance what % OL and what % RB is the reason for his success?

Actually since these are PFF grades, I'll pretty much dismiss all of them b/c they just are pretty damn poor at their job when it comes to their made up stats being weighted equal to more then stats that actually matter.

I agree Leonard is a work in progress Elliot will be a great back you can just tell hopefully no injuries happen to him.....

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 11:21:32 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 30, 2016 11:21:32 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 11:10:02 GMT -6 njbearsfan said:

Oct 28, 2016 13:47:37 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I don't think anyone expected Floyd to have a huge year; and I think we all knew that he shouldn't have seen as much time early on as he did.

No one questioned Dallas's OL as great. But I'll question anything PFF thinks when it comes to OL and DL b/c they have proven a laughable joke at it, and have admitted that they don't take into account scheme. If they don't take into account scheme how can they balance what % OL and what % RB is the reason for his success?

Actually since these are PFF grades, I'll pretty much dismiss all of them b/c they just are pretty damn poor at their job when it comes to their made up stats being weighted equal to more then stats that actually matter.

I agree Leonard is a work in progress Elliot will be a great back you can just tell hopefully no injuries happen to him.....

Yep. If Floyd is capable of building off of playing on passing downs, and the GB game, he'll be fine.

Elliott was a stud from the get go, and lucked into a damn good OL to boot. He'll be a beast if he stays healthy.

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 12:10:51 GMT -6 butkus3595 likes this

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Oct 30, 2016 11:21:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Oct 30, 2016 11:10:02 GMT -6 njbearsfan said:

Yep. If Floyd is capable of building off of playing on passing downs, and the GB game, he'll be fine.

Elliott was a stud from the get go, and lucked into a damn good OL to boot. He'll be a beast if he stays healthy.

Wait a minute , I thought 1 player was supposed top be able to " carry " a team ( or 'take' them to the SB ) . You mean there's 10 other guys that need to be relied on ? on top of the other 11 who need to be beat ?

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 30, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 12:10:51 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

Oct 30, 2016 11:21:32 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Yep. If Floyd is capable of building off of playing on passing downs, and the GB game, he'll be fine.

Elliott was a stud from the get go, and lucked into a damn good OL to boot. He'll be a beast if he stays healthy.

Wait a minute , I thought 1 player was supposed top be able to " carry " a team ( or 'take' them to the SB ) . You mean there's 10 other guys that need to be relied on ? on top of the other 11 who need to be beat ?

1 DE or 1 RB? nope.

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 12:59:50 GMT -6

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Oct 30, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Oct 30, 2016 12:10:51 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

Wait a minute , I thought 1 player was supposed top be able to " carry " a team ( or 'take' them to the SB ) . You mean there's 10 other guys that need to be relied on ? on top of the other 11 who need to be beat ?

1 DE or 1 RB? nope.

Then quarterbacks shouldn't be expected to either ... which is why I've always hated the mindless ,simplistic approach of MEdia types when they blather about whether this or that QB is good enough to 'take' their TEAM to the SB .

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 13:11:03 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 30, 2016 13:11:03 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 12:59:50 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

Oct 30, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

1 DE or 1 RB? nope.

Then quarterbacks shouldn't be expected to either ... which is why I've always hated the mindless ,simplistic approach of MEdia types when they blather about whether this or that QB is good enough to 'take' their TEAM to the SB .

Maybe, but QB's touch the ball on just about every possession. And honestly Manning and Sanders pretty much won that SB in 06, and Sanders was hurt until the playoffs so it was pretty much Manning until that point. So while it's not 1, it's not far off sometimes also.

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 13:19:46 GMT -6 paytonisgod likes this

Post by blueshoes on Oct 30, 2016 13:19:46 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 13:11:03 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Oct 30, 2016 12:59:50 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

Then quarterbacks shouldn't be expected to either ... which is why I've always hated the mindless ,simplistic approach of MEdia types when they blather about whether this or that QB is good enough to 'take' their TEAM to the SB .

Maybe, but QB's touch the ball on just about every possession. And honestly Manning and Sanders pretty much won that SB in 06, and Sanders was hurt until the playoffs so it was pretty much Manning until that point. So while it's not 1, it's not far off sometimes also.

Hogwash . The REST of the TEAM was good enough to get it done , THAT'S why they got the 'W' .
Put Brady or Rodgers on either the Bears or the Browns and they ain't coming close to winning the SB ... that's the point , and it's irrefutable .

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 30, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -6

That Indy Def was trash all year and Sanders comes back and they are lights out(23rd in reg season in ppg, 2nd in post season). That's not hogwash that's reality. That team loses Manning they aren't winning the SB and don't make the playoffs in 06 and they might not beat the Bears w/out SuperSanders in the SB. 2 key players can take you from winning to losing. Ya it takes 52 guys, but not all 52 are equal, which is why a guy like Kellen Davis has a SB ring and a guy like Urlacher doesn't.

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 18:28:25 GMT -6

Post by blueshoes on Oct 30, 2016 18:28:25 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

That Indy Def was trash all year and Sanders comes back and they are lights out(23rd in reg season in ppg, 2nd in post season). That's not hogwash that's reality. That team loses Manning they aren't winning the SB and don't make the playoffs in 06 and they might not beat the Bears w/out SuperSanders in the SB. 2 key players can take you from winning to losing. Ya it takes 52 guys, but not all 52 are equal, which is why a guy like Kellen Davis has a SB ring and a guy like Urlacher doesn't.

Right not all are equal ... certain players may make ur team more 'likely' to win the SB , and that's as far as it goes ... and that's what I wanna hear from the retards ... but , when they have it in for a guy , they spout-off with the " I don't think he's capable of 'taking' a team to the SB " sht - and they really try to make it sound like EVERYTHING hinges on 1 guy . NO it doesn't , the rest of the team needs to be pretty good too ( even when u have one of the QB's who make winning it more likely ) . It never hinges on 1 guy .

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How all 31 First-round picks have played this season Oct 30, 2016 18:43:47 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Oct 30, 2016 18:43:47 GMT -6

Oct 30, 2016 18:28:25 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

Oct 30, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

That Indy Def was trash all year and Sanders comes back and they are lights out(23rd in reg season in ppg, 2nd in post season). That's not hogwash that's reality. That team loses Manning they aren't winning the SB and don't make the playoffs in 06 and they might not beat the Bears w/out SuperSanders in the SB. 2 key players can take you from winning to losing. Ya it takes 52 guys, but not all 52 are equal, which is why a guy like Kellen Davis has a SB ring and a guy like Urlacher doesn't.

Right not all are equal ... certain players may make ur team more 'likely' to win the SB , and that's as far as it goes ... and that's what I wanna hear from the retards ... but , when they have it in for a guy , they spout-off with the " I don't think he's capable of 'taking' a team to the SB " sht - and they really try to make it sound like EVERYTHING hinges on 1 guy . NO it doesn't , the rest of the team needs to be pretty good too ( even when u have one of the QB's who make winning it more likely ) . It never hinges on 1 guy .

Does NE win 6 SB's if Brady isn't there? No. So ya sometimes it is 1 guy. Not every team is set up that way, not every team has to be setup that way, but that's not always the case either. The QB or a key def player that glues everything together is normally a key peice, a hinge if you will. NE can win w/any QB in the regular season(saw that this year and in years past), but fails in the post w/out Brady. Indy literally went from one of the best to the overall #1 pick in the draft the year Manning broke his neck. So yes sometimes it's one guy; especially a QB. But again that's not always the case, Sea is built around a team concept, Balt and SF were built around team. It can be done multiple ways, but if you want to always be in it, you better have THE QB.

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