The way this will work is that the Bears will eventually let him go and the fans will talk smack about how bad he was. Then Bill Belichick will pick him up and get him a ring. That's how this thing works. We are really good joes feeding the poor Patriots our talent this way.
It's one step forward and two steps back for Kevin White.
NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday that Bears players expect the second-year receiver will miss an extended period of time due to an ankle injury he suffered last week.
White was in the midst of his best game as a pro before injury struck. The 6-foot-3 wideout snagged six of his nine targets for 55 yards before leaving midway through the third quarter. White finally displayed toughness at the point of the catch and an ability to box out defenders. White's role had grown the past two weeks with Brian Hoyer spreading the ball around.
White missed his entire rookie season after suffering a stress fracture in his shin last year.
The Bears offered an intriguing trio of receivers with Alshon Jeffery's ability to win down field, Eddie Royal's run-after-the-catch acumen and White's big-body play. With White out, Cameron Meredith will take snaps as the No. 3 receiver. Expect tight end Zach Miller's role in the offense to grow even further.
The Bears started the season a depressing 1-3 with an injury-plagued, talent-poor roster that ranks 30th on Around The NFL's quarter-mark Power Poll. Watching the growth of young players like White, running back Jordan Howard and a litter of secondary cubs over the course of the season is what the fan base was counting on tracking. White can't make progress while he's on the sidelines.
So if Meredith puts up better stats then White can we discuss if White should be traded or benched?
How you gonna trade a guy who can't stay healthy and even when he is he's still a poor excuse for even a #3 WR. My old sneakers would bring more in trade than Kevin White will now. Until he actually shows he can play, if ever, he's worth zip.
It is what it is now so next man up. But on a serious note I gotta think that a serious injury like that to the same leg is not going to be good for his future. Can he lose speed and agility now? I mean that leg must now be a huge risk even if he could come back maybe in mid/late December.
Much like last year there's little or no sense in bringing him back to play this year unless we were a playoff team and can anyone realistically see that happening? IMHO White shouldn't even be starting now over guys who are sitting. Give them a few weeks to get their game on and most all of them will be far ahead of White in production.
They might as well keep White out and keep trying to drill that route tree and the playbook into his head. Then bring him back next summer and see if he actually has his speed and can run the routes correctly. As it stands right now I'm 50/50 at best that this kid will ever amount to being much at this level or at least not 'til his rookie deal is damn near up.
He and Floyd are becoming draft killers for Ryan Pace and he knows it too.
It is what it is now so next man up. But on a serious note I gotta think that a serious injury like that to the same leg is not going to be good for his future. Can he lose speed and agility now? I mean that leg must now be a huge risk even if he could come back maybe in mid/late December.
Much like last year there's little or no sense in bringing him back to play this year unless we were a playoff team and can anyone realistically see that happening? IMHO White shouldn't even be starting now over guys who are sitting. Give them a few weeks to get their game on and most all of them will be far ahead of White in production.
They might as well keep White out and keep trying to drill that route tree and the playbook into his head. Then bring him back next summer and see if he actually has his speed and can run the routes correctly. As it stands right now I'm 50/50 at best that this kid will ever amount to being much at this level or at least not 'til his rookie deal is damn near up.
He and Floyd are becoming draft killers for Ryan Pace and he knows it too.
I amor starting to wonder if he Will be back at all too. Clear waste of a pick so far.
The way this will work is that the Bears will eventually let him go and the fans will talk smack about how bad he was. Then Bill Belichick will pick him up and get him a ring. That's how this thing works. We are really good joes feeding the poor Patriots our talent this way.
Remind me who Belly's picked up from the Bears and won a ring with cause I'm coming up with nothing.
The way this will work is that the Bears will eventually let him go and the fans will talk smack about how bad he was. Then Bill Belichick will pick him up and get him a ring. That's how this thing works. We are really good joes feeding the poor Patriots our talent this way.
Remind me who Belly's picked up from the Bears and won a ring with cause I'm coming up with nothing.
Sure I can. You have a WR who doesn't know the route tree, can't stay healthy but somehow deserves to start over a second WR who is healthy and capable of putting up the same stats if not better than first WR. Its all about the production, unless ... it really not. So is it about...potential? Some other intangable?
Go back to the 10 year vet QB with turnover issues. Is this turnover issue new or have they plauged him his whole career? Whole career? So he's going to put up 1.7 turnovers a game? Is he more talented than the other QB (whose turns the ball over at a 1.4 clip or marginally better)? But is it about talent (ie potential) or production? What has the second QB (who by the way is an 8 year vet) shown over his career that tell us he is the better option? Two good games in a row against bad defenses? Is that what we are basing this on?
I'll say it again...I don't care who the QB is. IMO Cutler is the better option going forward. People disagree. Thats ok. But when the same logic is applied to another position, the argument changes?
WR still learning the job b/c he's played 4 games vs a qb that has been in the league 10 years. Yes it's been his whole career.
He had problems w/turnovers his entire career, minus 1 or 2 years. 176 int's and fumbles over 10 years, 136 games. Thats 1.29 TO per games, when he only has 1.5 TD's per game. that is a TO issue. So you are better off having a QB that is less talented, throws less TD's, but also turns the ball over far less. B/c in today's NFL it is to easy to put points on the board, giving the other team extra chances is detrimental to winning.
Go look at John Elway's pick ratio Ric and he's a HOF QB. It's always Cutler as if he existed in some sort of QB vacuum but seldom if ever Cutler compared to an entire universe of QBs as if he was the only one who ever gets picked or fumbles when he blindsided trying to make something happen instead of just doing a Brady tuck.
I'm sorry Soul, should we assume no other QB has had a bad OL? It's only when Cutler is blindsided that he fumbles? He only throws picks as Def's are all over him?
Elway played in a different era, where it was far more difficult for offenses to score, and when def's could head hunt QB's. Much different today.
But correct, what's the use. In your opinion Cutler is fine and everything else over the course of 10 years is the problem. I'm fully aware that the OL/WR's/OC's have been an issue, but I also understand that elite players can perform and stand out regardless, see Forte, see Long, see Marshal/Jeffery etc.
I'm not saying Cutler is THE problem, he's merely part of it. But the QB is to important to be part of the problem.
I'm not saying Cutler is THE problem, he's merely part of it. But the QB is to important to be part of the problem.
+1 It's not either extreme. Why can't we just accept the fact that the guy is "part of the problem" and leave it at that. Some fans hate him as evil incarnate. Others paint him as "The Martyr" here... and give him a pass. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. I am ready to move on to the post-Cutler era. I think that will actually be good for Jay Cutler too. Let the guy have a fresh start on a new team, and he may have a few good years before he retires. I don't even know why he'd want to stay here in Chicago after all that has happened here.
A new guy may or may not be a success here. But I do know that Cutler can't remain here forever. At some point the team needs to plan for the post-Cutler era. And soon would be prudent, IMHO.