Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 22:35:44 GMT -6
Sept 26, 2016 21:37:05 GMT -6 @soulman said:
When Fox and Pace were hired they unequivocally stated this was not a tear down and rebuild but they were only making moves that would contribute to winning and winning now. I picture Pace and Fox as being like that Slim Pickens guy riding the nuke in Dr. Strangelove... now that I think about it, Fox even looks a bit like Slim. LOL, fast forward this clip to 1:38. Tell me that guy doesn't make you think of Foxy just a bit. Riding that nuke down to get B.Marsh, Forte, Slauson, Brandon Marshall and the rest of the ex-Bears stars :-)
When those moves were made I could see the logic behind the plan. BM was as much about freeing up $$$ and cap to sign McPhee and with that #7 pick we get our WR. But here's how that worked out.
The Ravens weren't gonna spend starters $$$ on a role player they knew had a degenerative knee but Fox was desperate for a pass rusher so Pace gambled and it looks as though we've lost that one. I'd be only too happy to be wrong but I see Tommie Harris v2.0 all over again. If what he plays like when he comes off the PUP is anything like the second half of last year let him go in January and move on.
The #7 pick to replace BMarsh should have been Amari Cooper. That's who I wanted and I figured the way Oakland played they'd take White because his deep speed was a better match for their passing game. I'll bet Pace and his guys were counting on that too. But Oakland is getting smarter and took the more NFL ready more immediately productive guy who could do it all much like Marshall could. He was a great red zone threat but never a speedy deep threat. We got upside, an injury to our thoroughbred horse, and a kid who can't even describe the NFL route tree let alone run it. We got a Cordarrelle Patterson or one of those guys the Lions were always drafting. I think the kid is gonna be huge disappointment despite what others say.
Letting Forte walk was all about Fox and it was as stupid as any personnel move he's made so far especially when we learned soon after that he wasn't sold on Langford either and went after C J. Langford will never be another Forte. Not even a mere shadow of him and of all the moves by Fox this one pisses me off the most. With Forte and Howard he would have had his power back and his all purpose back and there was nothing about Forte's play that indicated he'd hit a wall. That was just an excuse to hide behind and it's backfired on Fox and Forte who should have been able to go out as a Bear doesn't.
As for Floyd now we know the reason for that desperation move and again it was all Fox again this time. They knew then all about McPhee's knee and all that crap about a scoping to clean it up was just more Fox bullshit. They knew he was a risk when the signed him and they knew they had a problem when his knee gave out last year but didn't want the negative press so they kicked the can down the road hoping his surgery (and I'm convinced it was a micro-fracture procedure) would work. Now gamble two has failed and both our top FA guy and our top 2015 pick are huge question marks and to be honest I have to wonder whether what we've been told about White still having his speed and explosion is one more lie because I don't see it. He wasn't getting any real separation last night but all we hear is it's because he's unsure of himself. I'm beginning to doubt that story too.
Floyd was another reach for a not ready for prime time player and what Pace should have done in punted on a pass rusher because there were no sure things, traded the pick, and used higher picks to fix his OL across the board if he couldn't fix the pass rush. Didn't it seem odd to you that with Young and Houston having come on strong when they returned and McPhee coming back why we so desperately needed a pass rusher over an OL? I sure as hell scratched my head and I hated the Floyd pick.
Since Pace was still somewhat of an unknown as a GM when so many draftniks started saying Floyd it puzzled me then but not now. By then those around the NFL knew Fox was calling the shots, had inside info on McPhee, and they were reading Fox just like they're reading him now. He's a guy whose won using his formulas to do it and by now they're quite predictable. Loggains may be calling plays but if he's working off schemes and scripts approved by Fox they're reading Fox more than Loggains. I'd bet on it. I was actually shocked to see Hoyer throw deep as much as he did last night and I'd bet that didn't come from Fox either but he was down to one RB so what could he do?
I'd be willing to bet of Pace fired Fox and made Fangio the interim HC and he let Loggains run the offense his own way we would have a better shot at 8-8 than we do now.