Bobby Massie - can he get better?

I can show you with screen shots if you want. I can pause right before the snap (or get the snap time directly from the game information) and the instant Cutler gets hit or is forced to scramble.  Four of the five sacks took right around 3 seconds. Your narrative about Cutler holding the ball is wrong. 

I'm also not here attacking Massie. As more information comes out about the silent snap count mess up, even that one sac isn't on MAssie anymore, its on Whitehair. I also blame Loggains for leaving Massie on an island against very good pass rushers. 

What I'm not doing is digging out an old narrative about Cutler to deflect blame from an OT that struggled against elite pass rushers. Other RTs are going to struggle against the Texans too. Its not a knock on Massie to admit he struggled against the Texans. So did Leno, and Whitehair. I thought the pass protection problems could have been addressed through scheme adjustments in the second half, but our coaches apparently don't adjust schemes.

But you know what I love about Massie, when he was run blocking he put people on the ground!! He threw down Watt more than once. Literally grabbed him and threw him down. Awesome. Put a TE on his side (not Miller who is going to hurt himself blocking) or chip with a RB and Massie will be ok. 

There is a reason I don't like to criticize players until I've watched the video a few times and game information starts to leak out of Halas Hall. You could see Massie looking for the head bob from Whitehair, and when the snap comes Massie is surprised and a starts the play a half second behind the pass rusher. Totally not on Massie. But in real time it looked bad, I think some fans can't go back and see what really happened. I was yelling at the TV. I need to yell an apology.

Also I'm not making an excuse for Massie. I've said several times he's averge at best as a pass blocker.

No, your narrative is wrong, I've offered you proof, and you refuse it. I am confident that I can get good timings off the video using either a video editing program with a time clock super-imposed on the video or simply stop and starting the video. You are wrong. 100% wrong. Trust me (since that apparently is the only proof you have to offer.)

No one is saying the ball doesn't have to come out quickly against superior pass rushers. Show me where I said that. What I did say and can prove is that because the Texans pass rush is elite, the Bears OL was overwhelmed either because of talent or bad scheme, and Cutler had on average 3 seconds to get the ball out. I'll say it again slowly for you.  He   Didn't  Hold  The  Ball   Too  Long  Against  The Texans.  You're   comment  about  Cutler  holding  the  ball   too   long   in this case is wrong. 100% wrong.  He did't  get  the  time  to  hold  the  ball too long.

This is why I stopped interacting with you on the other board. You aren't the end all of football knowledge. Even if you really do work with NFL players, that doesn't make you an expert on all things football. Your opinion is simply that, an opinion. Instead you have this need to have the last word in every discussion. Well I guess, you'll have it here. I won't be interacting with you again, its fruitless and a waste of my time.Too bad. I had high hopes for you once you moved away from the trolls at the other forum. Too bad. 

I don't really like PFF but I found this article interesting: www.profootballfocus.com/pass-blocking-by-time-to-throw/

It's from 2013...but it discusses some interesting things like time to pressure and such. One of the things they talked about was how the majority of throws in the NFL are out in 3 seconds or less.

Another one from that series: www.profootballfocus.com/qbs-in-focus-time-to-throw/