Sorry folks hogwash and blarney flugel - ye'all are makin this sound too complercated or at least lending creedence to the alleged complicatedness of this endeavor and I don't buy it . Snap ball - kick ball . If ur kicker is any good it usually goes thru the uprights . Bottom line = git er done .
Fair enough but when you say that you know that you have to prove to us yourself just how easy it is. Which one of us do you want to be the LS and which one of us is the Holder?
I was a RB - trained to take the hand-off and hit the hole ( or where it's supposed to be theoretically ) ... from there it's find what you can . Sometimes it worked perfectly , often it was improvise . I'm just sayin this is what they're trained to do , and it's alot easier than any other position . Sure distance , wind , sun , a slippery field can make it trickier - but compared to other positions .........
Fair enough but when you say that you know that you have to prove to us yourself just how easy it is. Which one of us do you want to be the LS and which one of us is the Holder?
I was a RB - trained to take the hand-off and hit the hole ( or where it's supposed to be theoretically ) ... from there it's find what you can . Sometimes it worked perfectly , often it was improvise . I'm just sayin this is what they're trained to do , and it's alot easier than any other position . Sure distance , wind , sun , a slippery field can make it trickier - but compared to other positions .........
I was just kiddin' but I did place kick in HS, although not soccer style. Getting your timing down with the snap is pretty important because you're beginning to move forward as the ball is snapped and your plant and leg release is beginning just as the holder sets the ball down and spins it so the laces are facing forward. You don't have time to wait for all of that to be perfect.
Any interruption or delay in that process is gonna cause a problem because just like a golf swing is all a matter of rhythm and you can't slow it down once it begins or stop and restart either and get the expected result. Even without the wind and eleven guys looking to get in your face and block the kick it's tougher than it looks especially from 40 yards out and that doesn't count nerves either.
IMHO the easiest job was a DE on 3rd and long. Just time the snap, rear your head back, look for the guy holding the ball, and take him down. The hardest was blocking THAT sumbitch.
Post by tragicslip on Sept 10, 2016 9:20:10 GMT -6
i hope we don't can Pace and Fox in 2017. we have depth on the roster and young talented guys. why do you want to replace that, esp. given the record of previous GMs and coaches?
i hope we don't can Pace and Fox in 2017. we have depth on the roster and young talented guys. why do you want to replace that, esp. given the record of previous GMs and coaches?
Agreed. It took several years of inept drafting and mismanagement at the end of JA's tenure as GM and the 3 years of Emery's to get us into the position we were in when Pace and Fox took over in January 2015.
I really believe the team will be improved this year. Barring a complete catastrophe in 2016, the current mgmt and staff should be here fr at least another year or two.
i hope we don't can Pace and Fox in 2017. we have depth on the roster and young talented guys. why do you want to replace that, esp. given the record of previous GMs and coaches?
I don't see that happening no matter what our W/L record. There are no signs at all that Foxy's guys have lost faith in him or his staff and despite the issues we seem to having with two 1st round picks overall Pace's drafts and management of his FA signings has been excellent.
Even with McPhee, although he may have taken some risk, his contract only guarantees $15.5 mil or roughly 2 years salary and he can be released in 2017 leaving only $1.5 mil of dead cap space. The Eddie Royal deal is similar in that it only guaranteed 2 years as well and Sitton's deal only guarantees $10 mil of a $22 mil contract. So he's managed his downside fairly well cap wise.
I think what most everyone is looking for is a team that improves and becomes more competitive as the year goes by. We can expect some earlier games to have some hiccups on both sides of the ball with new starters getting settled in and rookies and second year guys gaining experience and making fewer mistakes. But once they're past that phase they should be winning in November and December instead of going into a late season swoon the way some of Lovie's team did. That's what I'll be looking for.
I am not sure that Fox can win a SB. Not saying he can't. Just saying I'm not sure he can. We brought him in here to set the right mentality and rebuild the team. He is doing both. Until the team is set and we see he can't win the SB, why replace him? let him finish his job at least. Once we have a good team, we see if he keeps missing the goal and THEN take action. Not sure why he should go now.
Post by Whisky Beer Bob on Sept 12, 2016 5:58:48 GMT -6
I was wondering, Does Fox call plays at all during the game? Or does he leave that up to his OC and DC? Is it Fox that is playing it conservative? Or his Coordinators.
I am not sure that Fox can win a SB. Not saying he can't. Just saying I'm not sure he can. We brought him in here to set the right mentality and rebuild the team. He is doing both. Until the team is set and we see he can't win the SB, why replace him? let him finish his job at least. Once we have a good team, we see if he keeps missing the goal and THEN take action. Not sure why he should go now.
The Bears aren't gonna replace a HC whose only one year into a four year deal and they shouldn't. But that doesn't mean as fans we or the organization should relieve him of his responsibility to build a team and show progress at all levels.
NFL football isn't all that clever or innovative. It's all just a matter of preparation and execution of a game plan and the plays within it. If we're doing that then the rest will take care of itself and when we aren't it shows that the two major elements needed to win aren't being well covered and there's a lot more work let to do.
The biggest disappointment of yesterdays game was the lack of progress we showed. It was pretty damn hard to write a Monday column focused on progress when we showed so little of it. I hope next weeks will be a little easier to write with more material to draw from.
I was wondering, Does Fox call plays at all during the game? Or does he leave that up to his OC and DC? Is it Fox that is playing it conservative? Or his Coordinators.
Good question Bob. The OC and the DC each produce their own game plans and conduct play calling during the games. While they're occupied with that Fox is prowling the sidelines looking at it all and trying to digest what to do next when things aren't working as planned.
He's more or less a band leader who conducting a score of music that's already been written.
But to say Fox has no influence on how that score has been written for each game would be wrong. I think he's actually favors Loggains as his OC since both tend to look at offensive football as all about the proper execution of basic plays and less about trickery or surprises. I believe that's why we saw few if any throws on 1st down yesterday even after Houston's defensive adjustments screamed out for them.
If Fox expects to win games playing Vince Lombardi style offense with 15 plays everyone knows he'll run but just try and stop us, he'll need far better execution and a far better mix of those plays than we went with yesterday. Gase was more willing to experiment and probe with a more open playbook than either Fox or Loggains seem to be and Cutler said as much earlier this year.
Fangio probably has more leeway but I suspect Fox is still insisting on certain things one of which may be the amount of playing time Floyd got yesterday. It's tough to figure out how he got so many snaps when he's listed behind Houston on the depth chart and Houston plays the run better and is also far more advanced as a pass rusher. Sans McPhee at the moment Houston and Young should be playing the majority of the snaps in the base defense and Floyd moved around as a pass rusher to give both of them a breather but that's not what they did.
I'm far from ready to throw in the towel with them yet but I still have to wonder as others have also expressed that we need a much better offensive mind running the offense for Fox or once again we end up pissing away a lot to offensive talent by scheming incorrectly and via all too conservative game plans and play calling. I'm probably more disappointed in that aspect of Fox's coaching style than anything else.
