Post by Whisky Beer Bob on Sept 4, 2016 17:20:24 GMT -6
I can't fault Pace for letting Slauson go. Again if he knew we would have the injury and retirement I am sure he would not have let him go. Pace has done reasonably well since coming to Chicago and he has a vision. I know Emery had 1 before him and so on but this is what we got so we might as well get on board and enjoy the ride. I love wine,beer, and whiskey. So does Pace(alcohol induced speculation of course.) So cheers bro, Bear down, and let's get that Super Bowl win!!! This is the closest post to jackiejokemans legendary posts we have so like it up, shoot tha booze, and Bear Down
That could kill the deal IMO. 4 year deal with guarantees on a 30 year old lineman with back problems? Yes, he is a probowler (well, was), but I guess it all depends on the guarantees he wants. We'll see. Glad that it seems like he might want to be a Bear. He already looks like one.
The length of the deal means very little if anything with these 30 year old guys. As long as we aren't guaranteeing more than we're willing to risk for as long as we're willing to risk it we should be fine. Unless he remains at or near his previous levels he won't ever see all of the money anyway.
I'd be happy to see a solid year or two out of him starting at OC for now if he can handle that. If he can still play RG at a high level that also means they have some options next year as far as how to use Long. Fox and Magazu tend to like versatility in their interior OL so we'll see what happens.
I'd be shocked but very pleasantly surprised if Pace can get him to commit to a very team friendly two year deal though.
As you say, it is really the guarantee (amount and length) that matters. Length always matters
I can't fault Pace for letting Slauson go. Again if he knew we would have the injury and retirement I am sure he would not have let him go. Pace has done reasonably well since coming to Chicago and he has a vision. I know Emery had 1 before him and so on but this is what we got so we might as well get on board and enjoy the ride. I love wine,beer, and whiskey. So does Pace(alcohol induced speculation of course.) So cheers bro, Bear down, and let's get that Super Bowl win!!! This is the closest post to jackiejokemans legendary posts we have so like it up, shoot tha booze, and Bear Down
So ya' think we should invite jackie over to add some uh.....variety, or can we count on you to pick up the slack Bob? LOL
The length of the deal means very little if anything with these 30 year old guys. As long as we aren't guaranteeing more than we're willing to risk for as long as we're willing to risk it we should be fine. Unless he remains at or near his previous levels he won't ever see all of the money anyway.
I'd be happy to see a solid year or two out of him starting at OC for now if he can handle that. If he can still play RG at a high level that also means they have some options next year as far as how to use Long. Fox and Magazu tend to like versatility in their interior OL so we'll see what happens.
I'd be shocked but very pleasantly surprised if Pace can get him to commit to a very team friendly two year deal though.
As you say, it is really the guarantee (amount and length) that matters. Length always matters
Well girth too right? I mean you don't want your uh......OL to be too skinny right?
This is why I didn't want to get my hopes up too high. Sitton is not the typical FA you find floating around the league late in the offseason. He is going to want a healthy amount of coin, a multi-year deal, and guarantees. Wherever he signs is likely to be his last real starter's-type contract. Like Soul said, I think a reasonable compromise is a 3-4 yr deal with most/all the guaranteed money in the first 2. I hope Pace can get this done.
I'd like to think that will be Pace's starting point. I'm not aware of any reported back injury but I do know he played through a foot injury a couple of years ago. Despite that he hasn't missed any starts and although he's played the left side most of his career he's also moved around when needed.
Josh Sitton’s career statistics Games Fumbles Year G GS FF FR 2008 11 2 2009 16 16 0 1 2010 16 16 2011 14 14 2012* 16 16 2013 16 16 2014* 16 16 2015* 16 16 Career 121 112 0 1
He's only missed two starts since 2009. That's some pretty good toughness and consistency I'd say.
Right now the Porker fans seem to be as upset with this move as some Bears fans have been with our release of Matt Slauson. I'm not sure Sitton is the perfect prospect for a zone run blocking scheme either but the guy is a virtual wall as a pass blocker so in any event I don't think we can ignore any opportunities to sign him. His knowledge of the GB offense is an X factor in the whole deal too.
I also hope Pace can get a deal done with him before he even leaves to NOLA. I think we have more to offer him now and in the near future than virtually anyone else. If he can play OC or this other FA we just picked up can maybe we set Larsen sailing.
Pace wouldn't have invited Sitton in for a meeting if he wasn't serious about signing him. This guy's a vet in the league and the Bears, more than 29 other teams, know Sitton's strengths and weaknesses.
One other note: Green Bay's bread and butter is zone blocking. They've been running a zone blocking scheme for quite sometime now so Sitton has experience there. Here's a decent article about it: Click Here