Your focus on other posters really amazes me, and its not sarcasm
I just remember what I have read and like challenging people who aren't consistent. Maybe thats the teacher in me, maybe its cause my family screwed me up (I'll go with...family screwed me up.) I know its a problem and believe it or not, I actually write each post twice in order to tone it down. I'm actually more of an idiot than I come across, and I come across as a pretty big idiot.
I have a different problem, regarding Bears and draft, I always think they made a great pick. So, im a pretty big idiot too.
I still think the 49ers completely played the Bears. The problem is we most likely will never know the truth.
Of course they did. And the Bears knew it and they were ok with it. It was predictable. If you are in the 2nd spot and the third spot who is in need of a QB and no QB is off the board yet and you are not going to take a QB, moving down one spot is a no brainer. Their preferred trade was with the Bears. They wanted Thomas. If they move down more than one spot ---- behind the team trying to move up to get a QB, they probably lose him. The Bears figured that any other team trying to get to #2 probably was also doing it for a QB, and that QB could be Trub. So the Bears know giving up 3 picks to move up one spot is being taken (although that is the going rate). The 49ers know they can love without a QB (God knows why...) so they take advantage of three picks from us to get who they would have anyway. Of course they took advantage of the situation.
I'm sure they could have gotten a much bigger haul from a team that was moving up from lower, but they wanted Thomas and the only way to be sure to get him was move down one spot. Still get your guy and get three more picks. Who wouldn't?
On the other hand, you have a QB you want and other teams are trying to get there to possibly take him also. You are going to pay less than anyone else to get him because you already have the #3. You can try to offer less knowing that the 49ers really only want to move down one spot, but if you go too low, the other offers might make the 49ers decide to go for the big haul. And you really need a QB.
Both sides got what they wanted. It works....
What da **** are you talking about? Why would they need a QB, they have Hoyer and Barkley!
Of course they did. And the Bears knew it and they were ok with it. It was predictable. If you are in the 2nd spot and the third spot who is in need of a QB and no QB is off the board yet and you are not going to take a QB, moving down one spot is a no brainer. Their preferred trade was with the Bears. They wanted Thomas. If they move down more than one spot ---- behind the team trying to move up to get a QB, they probably lose him. The Bears figured that any other team trying to get to #2 probably was also doing it for a QB, and that QB could be Trub. So the Bears know giving up 3 picks to move up one spot is being taken (although that is the going rate). The 49ers know they can love without a QB (God knows why...) so they take advantage of three picks from us to get who they would have anyway. Of course they took advantage of the situation.
I'm sure they could have gotten a much bigger haul from a team that was moving up from lower, but they wanted Thomas and the only way to be sure to get him was move down one spot. Still get your guy and get three more picks. Who wouldn't?
On the other hand, you have a QB you want and other teams are trying to get there to possibly take him also. You are going to pay less than anyone else to get him because you already have the #3. You can try to offer less knowing that the 49ers really only want to move down one spot, but if you go too low, the other offers might make the 49ers decide to go for the big haul. And you really need a QB.
Both sides got what they wanted. It works....
What da **** are you talking about? Why would they need a QB, they have Hoyer and Barkley!
true dat... two QBs that rate higher than Aaron Rogers.... What was I thinking.....
What da **** are you talking about? Why would they need a QB, they have Hoyer and Barkley!
true dat... two QBs that rate higher than Aaron Rogers.... What was I thinking.....
And its not Hoyer and Barkley its Hoyer AND Barkley, double danger. Ill try to explain it to you, its not that you have two gf's, its like having Pamela and Yasmine at the same time.
true dat... two QBs that rate higher than Aaron Rogers.... What was I thinking.....
PFF says so, I'll just leave that here.
Both 49ers QBs rated through the roof with their PFF NL-scores (Neck Length scores)... way longer than Aaron Rodgers. And Glennon has all three of those QBs beat. Anyone know Trubisky's NL? It's got me a bit worried he's a short neck guy.
Both 49ers QBs rated through the roof with their PFF NL-scores (Neck Length scores)... way longer than Aaron Rodgers. And Glennon has all three of those QBs beat. Anyone know Trubisky's NL? It's got me a bit worried he's a short neck guy.
Exactly, who can forget that hit at least 20y ago 'Don't want no shortnecked man!' Don't want, don't want, don't want no.
Reports are that SF was going to trade out no matter what, so another team would have jumped in and taken a QB. It could have been a different QB but if Mitch was Pace's guy than he couldn't take that chance. He might not have gotten Mitch at #3. We'll never know.
If Pace was the only one bidding for the pick then yes, if SF really wanted the Thomas he could have gotten Mitch at #3. But I have no doubt that Lynch told Pace who was on the other line. In that case, even though the Chiefs/Texans/whoever might have paid more, it was more important that SF get a top pic this year in order to get the guy they wanted (Thomas) rather than end up in the middle of the draft pack picking a lower ranked player on their board.
All the reports are that SF had multiple offers. Pace did what he had to do to get his guy.
Thats my MSU looking at what I know/read/heard.
I still think the 49ers completely played the Bears. The problem is we most likely will never know the truth.
This is an opinion you've arrived at based on what facts precisely?
I still think the 49ers completely played the Bears. The problem is we most likely will never know the truth.
This is an opinion you've arrived at based on what facts precisely?
Who said anything about facts? It's just how I feel about it. There aren't any facts to suggest anything else either. All we know is that the Bears were worried another team might trade up to get Turbisky ahead of them. I just have a gut feeling that it wasn't going to happen.
Even if another team did trade ahead to get Trubisky, I would have been happy taking Thomas, Adams or Watson with the 3rd pick and keeping the other picks. I wasn't sold on Trubisky being the best QB so my opinion is biased.
It doesn't matter what my opinion is though. Trubisky is our QB and I'm in full support of him now. I'm still excited to have him on the team, I'm just concerned about the rest of the team now.