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John Jenkins - Bears Newest Addition Mar 19, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -6 AlexM and butkus3595 like this

Post by mpbears68 on Mar 19, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -6

Mar 19, 2017 12:06:39 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Mar 19, 2017 12:00:53 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

lol... R - E - L - A - X

So we agree to disagree. What's wrong with that?

Nothing really...my only real issue is you said he was a better run blocker than massie. Thats simply not true, so there is nothing to either agree or disagree about. We can agree or disagree on matters of opinion, i've got no issues with that.

Massie, and I know him well from his time here in AZ, is a very good run blocker certainly well above average. In pass pro, he's maybe average to slightly above. He definitely has lapses and struggles sometimes with speed off the edge.

I would have liked to see a better addition to the position than Compton (who's prob just swing/depth) but Wagner got some pretty big coin. Bears were rumored to be interested in him as FA was about to begin but like with Gilmore and Bouye, it appears the price escalated too far too fast.

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John Jenkins - Bears Newest Addition Mar 19, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -6 AlexM and riczaj01 like this

Post by butkus3595 on Mar 19, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -6

Mar 19, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Mar 19, 2017 12:06:39 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Nothing really...my only real issue is you said he was a better run blocker than massie. Thats simply not true, so there is nothing to either agree or disagree about. We can agree or disagree on matters of opinion, i've got no issues with that.

Massie, and I know him well from his time here in AZ, is a very good run blocker certainly well above average. In pass pro, he's maybe average to slightly above. He definitely has lapses and struggles sometimes with speed off the edge.

I would have liked to see a better addition to the position than Compton (who's prob just swing/depth) but Wagner got some pretty big coin. Bears were rumored to be interested in him as FA was about to begin but like with Gilmore and Bouye, it appears the price escalated too far too fast.

Yeah...I'm not trying to say Massie is a stud, but I don't see Wagner as some big upgrade, or even an upgrade at all when everything is considered.

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John Jenkins - Bears Newest Addition Mar 19, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -6

Post by AlexM on Mar 19, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -6

Mar 19, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Mar 19, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Massie, and I know him well from his time here in AZ, is a very good run blocker certainly well above average. In pass pro, he's maybe average to slightly above. He definitely has lapses and struggles sometimes with speed off the edge.

I would have liked to see a better addition to the position than Compton (who's prob just swing/depth) but Wagner got some pretty big coin. Bears were rumored to be interested in him as FA was about to begin but like with Gilmore and Bouye, it appears the price escalated too far too fast.

Yeah...I'm not trying to say Massie is a stud, but I don't see Wagner as some big upgrade, or even an upgrade at all when everything is considered.

Me neither, I watched a few Ravens game, nothing special at all. Beside, Massie got better with each game, so lets give the man some slack.

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John Jenkins - Bears Newest Addition Mar 19, 2017 14:30:04 GMT -6 AlexM likes this

Post by riczaj01 on Mar 19, 2017 14:30:04 GMT -6

Mar 19, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Mar 19, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Yeah...I'm not trying to say Massie is a stud, but I don't see Wagner as some big upgrade, or even an upgrade at all when everything is considered.

Me neither, I watched a few Ravens game, nothing special at all. Beside, Massie got better with each game, so lets give the man some slack.

That's why I wanted competition to come in, not clear upgrades, it would mean having to cut Massie(b/c of his contract) and I think they are overall better. I want a guy that might beat him. that means you have 2 potential starters.

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John Jenkins - Bears Newest Addition Mar 19, 2017 14:36:19 GMT -6

Post by AlexM on Mar 19, 2017 14:36:19 GMT -6

Mar 19, 2017 14:30:04 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Mar 19, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Me neither, I watched a few Ravens game, nothing special at all. Beside, Massie got better with each game, so lets give the man some slack.

That's why I wanted competition to come in, not clear upgrades, it would mean having to cut Massie(b/c of his contract) and I think they are overall better. I want a guy that might beat him. that means you have 2 potential starters.

Probably dont have that guy on the roster just yet, maybe a draftee?
Although, in his 4 seasons Compton played 60 games with 10 starts, not too bad really

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Post by mpbears68 on Mar 19, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -6

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