B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 12:39:10 GMT -6

Post by brasilbear on Feb 7, 2017 12:39:10 GMT -6

"The Bears are digging out from under the wreckage of a 3-13 season, their worst since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. How did they get here? If there was a simple explanation, there would have been an easy fix by now. It's complicated, it's layered and it's the result of a series of poor decisions. Here are 10."

Bad Drafting
Hiring Marc Trestman
Extending Cutler's contract
Trading for Cutler
Neglecting offensive line
Too many offensive coordinators
Trading Greg Olsen
Aggressive at wrong times
Free-agency head-scratchers
Waiting too long for QB

I'd like to argue that trading for Cutler wasn't a mistake, but its hard to argue that a 500 record since then made it a good trade.

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Feb 7, 2017 13:07:40 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

The amount traded for Cutler was to much, so ya it was a mistake.

The rest are very generic and just about the signs of every bad franchise.

well, we try to hit all the checkboxes.

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 14:27:52 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Feb 7, 2017 14:27:52 GMT -6

First of all, thanks for posting this thread. It is an outstanding article by Brad Biggs. Kind of like a post-mortem autopsy on the dead franchise.

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In terms of a singular bad decision, there hasn't been a bigger whiff than this and it's not close. Can you think of a bigger mistake in Chicago sports over the last decade? To think Bruce Arians was a few miles away from Halas Hall in a hotel room when the franchise made the decision to hire Trestman from the CFL is mind-numbing. This was a major miscalculation not only by general manager Phil Emery but by ownership and the highest levels of management.

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 18:50:14 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear and rosto17 like this

Post by paytonisgod on Feb 7, 2017 18:50:14 GMT -6

Cutler was actually a very good trade. Look at the list of QBs the Bears could have drafted for either of those two draft picks.

2009
Matthew Stafford (#1 pick not available)
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Stephen McGee
Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
Tom Brandstater
Mike Teel
Keith Null
Curtis Painter

2010
Sam Bradford (#1 pick not available)
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Mike Kafka
John Skelton
Jonathan Crompton
Rusty Smith
Dan LeFevour
Tony Pike
Levi Brown
Sean Canfield
Zac Robinson

We actually got the best QB available for both of those draft classes.

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 20:24:29 GMT -6

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Feb 7, 2017 13:09:28 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Feb 7, 2017 13:07:40 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

The amount traded for Cutler was to much, so ya it was a mistake.

The rest are very generic and just about the signs of every bad franchise.

well, we try to hit all the checkboxes.

lol

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -6

Post by motm on Feb 7, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -6

I agree with this. The thing that hurt us the most was the bad drafting.

2016 Leonard Floyd: Injury concerns
2015 Kevin White: Bust
2014 Kyle Fuller: Bust
2013 Kyle Long: Pro Bowler
2012 Shea McClellin: Bust
2011 Gabe Carimi: Bust
2008 Chris Williams: Bust
2007 Greg Olsen: Pro Bowler and 2nd team All Pro

You don't get far in the NFL when you draft busts.

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 21:23:41 GMT -6 riczaj01 and rosto17 like this

Post by butkus3595 on Feb 7, 2017 21:23:41 GMT -6

Feb 7, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -6 motm said:

I agree with this. The thing that hurt us the most was the bad drafting.

2016 Leonard Floyd: Injury concerns
2015 Kevin White: Bust
2014 Kyle Fuller: Bust
2013 Kyle Long: Pro Bowler
2012 Shea McClellin: Bust
2011 Gabe Carimi: Bust
2008 Chris Williams: Bust
2007 Greg Olsen: Pro Bowler and 2nd team All Pro

You don't get far in the NFL when you draft busts.

What injury concerns did Floyd have coming into the draft? Are they same mystery one's White had coming into the draft?

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 21:29:37 GMT -6

Post by motm on Feb 7, 2017 21:29:37 GMT -6

Feb 7, 2017 21:23:41 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Feb 7, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -6 motm said:

I agree with this. The thing that hurt us the most was the bad drafting.

2016 Leonard Floyd: Injury concerns
2015 Kevin White: Bust
2014 Kyle Fuller: Bust
2013 Kyle Long: Pro Bowler
2012 Shea McClellin: Bust
2011 Gabe Carimi: Bust
2008 Chris Williams: Bust
2007 Greg Olsen: Pro Bowler and 2nd team All Pro

You don't get far in the NFL when you draft busts.

What injury concerns did Floyd have coming into the draft? Are they same mystery one's White had coming into the draft?

I'm not talking about coming into the draft. I'm talking about now.

Floyd had many different problems this year with hamstrings to concussions. Hopefully that gets fix in year 2.

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B.Biggs: top 10 missteps in 10 years Feb 7, 2017 23:02:52 GMT -6 blueshoes and rosto17 like this

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Feb 7, 2017 21:07:08 GMT -6 motm said:

I agree with this. The thing that hurt us the most was the bad drafting.

2016 Leonard Floyd: Injury concerns
2015 Kevin White: Bust
2014 Kyle Fuller: Bust
2013 Kyle Long: Pro Bowler
2012 Shea McClellin: Bust
2011 Gabe Carimi: Bust
2008 Chris Williams: Bust
2007 Greg Olsen: Pro Bowler and 2nd team All Pro

You don't get far in the NFL when you draft busts.

2016 okay first off Floyd a couple of injuries doesn't make a injury concern

2015 White isn't even close to being a bust he is a injury concern

2014 Fuller maybe

201 Long true

2012 Shea is a bust then why does he have a Super Bowl ring. oh yea because he plays for a team that knows how to play player

2011 Carimi a true bust

2008 Williams a bust

2007 Olsen one biggest mistake

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