After firing Brown, George will assemble a star-studded committee of collaborators to find the next HC. Rumors are it will include Kevin Warren, Ted Phillips, Ted Lasso, Lizzo, Madonna, Rhianna, and Cher. George likes the one-name thing as it is easier to remember.
Ben Johnson will be the obvious best pick.
George won't want to pay him.
So they will hire some ex-Browns DC on the cheap and he will be gone in 3 years.
We have the best star-studded committee for all of our hires. What could possibly go wrong this time?
I loved that show as a kid. Absolutely loved it. A dream I had as a child was to get on the Grand Prize Game. Seeing those Archway cookies on the shelf at the grocery store was a magical moment for me to. I was like oh wow something from TV is actually real?
Thomas Brown is going to bring accountability, turn the offense around, and look like a star.
Eberflus will get fired.
Then Brown gets fired.
Brown goes on to be the next Mike Tomlin.
We hire some guy who is gone in three years.
LOL.... that's the plan. What? You don't like it?
Don't worry about me man. I'm solid. It's not even Thanksgiving and I'm already trying to figure out which OL we're going to take with the #10 overall pick in the draft.
This has been the plan since 1987 with a brief period of success in the mid-2000s.
Way too early thoughts on potential Bears coaches in 2025 (they still have one, even if we don't like him):
Coaches I don't think Bears consider at all:
Mike McCarthy (despite Trace Armstrong tie) Bill Belichick Bobby Slowik Frank Smith Jesse Minter Kevin Stefanski (Because he's going nowhere) Todd Monken
Coaches I think could be interviewed but not strongly considered:
Marcus Freeman Zac Robinson Mike Vrabel Brian Daboll Kliff Kingsbury Aaron Glenn
Coaches I could see interviewed and Bears would be interested:
Joe Brady Ben Johnson Thomas Brown Liam Coen Kellen Moore Drew Petzing Brian Flores
Post by bearsinhouston on Nov 22, 2024 10:39:42 GMT -6
A thought just came to mind. I actually think I know what the problem has been to date. No seriously. Been in front of me all along. It just takes months to get to the top. I remember reading that Virginia had interviewed at least one of the previous coaches. Now, my mind is blurry here so maybe interview is wrong. Maybe it was met. I honestly can't remember any more. But in doing so, I am sure she provides her approval. By all accounts, she is a super nice person. I think these coaching hires all have to be nice guys because of her input. She doesn't want the honey bears and I think she is the one that wants a nice guy coach. I think both her and George really are hands off ownership but AFTER they have been hands on in providing input on the coaches. AT that point, the damage is done though.
I wonder if they will truly let Warren down make a decision? I have always been saying that ownership is hands off, but now I think they are hands off in day to day but a factor in who they hire and it has not worked out
A thought just came to mind. I actually think I know what the problem has been to date. No seriously. Been in front of me all along. It just takes months to get to the top. I remember reading that Virginia had interviewed at least one of the previous coaches. Now, my mind is blurry here so maybe interview is wrong. Maybe it was met. I honestly can't remember any more. But in doing so, I am sure she provides her approval. By all accounts, she is a super nice person. I think these coaching hires all have to be nice guys because of her input. She doesn't want the honey bears and I think she is the one that wants a nice guy coach. I think both her and George really are hands off ownership but AFTER they have been hands on in providing input on the coaches. AT that point, the damage is done though.
I wonder if they will truly let Warren down make a decision? I have always been saying that ownership is hands off, but now I think they are hands off in day to day but a factor in who they hire and it has not worked out
It's been a slew of bad hires for decades now and the common denominator is ownership.
I do not think George/Teddy/Etc. are/were micro-managers. In fact, I'm almost sure they aren't/weren't. But they are involved in coaching and front office decisions and it's more than just a formality or cursory signing off.
Poles made the decision to hire Flus, yes. But he was handed a pre-approved list from ownership who took their advice from Bill Polian. So is it a big surprise we ended up with a no-name DC from Indy just a couple days after Poles assumed the GM job?
You can see from the coaches and GMs they have brought here that they have a "type" they want and that's it. And the people that have fit that type haven't been effective leaders and haven't been good at their jobs. Lovie had a couple years of success and Nagy had one. Otherwise, it's been clown school for about 20 of the 24 years in this century with bad GMs and bad HCs and bad coordinator hires.
If what we're reading this week is correct, George McCaskey is a "hands off" owner. The president and GM are trusted to run the franchise. President Ted Phillips & Kevin Warren seem "hands off" with actual football-personnel stuff. The GM is pretty much trusted to run the show by himself for 99% of the decisions. That 1% is probably just getting an okay to spend money on big contracts - more major personnel moves where you'd expect oversight.
That is the business model for the Bears. It seems like a 180 degree difference between owners who are hands on like the Jets' Woody Johnson and the Cowboys' Jerry Jones. But if the GM hire is bad then this model is screwed. The Bears (McCaskey) has hired bad GMs. Of course the jury is still out on this present GM, Ryan Poles.
Is the GM failing to provide quality players who can be coached to a championship level?
Is the HC failing to coach the team to it's full-potential, or not?
Are both the GM and the HC failing?
Nine men have been tasked with building the team, 5 different head coaches and 4 general managers. A great franchise has 1 of each for many years. The work product of those 9 of ours: zero playoff wins (2 losses), only 1 division winner and most years the team has ended in the cellar of the NFCN (3rd and last place). To answer the question that writer posed, "Where is the root of the problem? How deep is the rot in the Bears organization?"I'm thinking it is the HC hire. I really believe the GM will have completed a good rebuild, including provision of a quality franchise quarterback in Caleb Williams. This is a good roster if the GM makes the expected moves to fix the OL next season. Poles does need to nail this HC hire though.
A thought just came to mind. I actually think I know what the problem has been to date. No seriously. Been in front of me all along. It just takes months to get to the top. I remember reading that Virginia had interviewed at least one of the previous coaches. Now, my mind is blurry here so maybe interview is wrong. Maybe it was met. I honestly can't remember any more. But in doing so, I am sure she provides her approval. By all accounts, she is a super nice person. I think these coaching hires all have to be nice guys because of her input. She doesn't want the honey bears and I think she is the one that wants a nice guy coach. I think both her and George really are hands off ownership but AFTER they have been hands on in providing input on the coaches. AT that point, the damage is done though.
I wonder if they will truly let Warren down make a decision? I have always been saying that ownership is hands off, but now I think they are hands off in day to day but a factor in who they hire and it has not worked out
I have been harping on this for years. It all ends with Virginia. She got rid of the Honeybears and we've only had nice guy HCs since. Mike, George, Teddy, none of them matter. Virginia is in control, like her dad, and she controls it all, one way or another.
Coaches I could see interviewed and Bears would be interested:
Joe Brady Ben Johnson Thomas Brown Liam Coen Kellen Moore Drew Petzing Brian Flores
Thomas Brown has a priceless opportunity in these 7 remaining games. He has taken over a horribly broken offense mid-season, on a team falling apart under a failed head coach. The remaining schedule is brutal, and the offensive line looks bad. His rookie QB has so far played like the worst of the first three or four QBs taken in this draft. If he can get the offense to improve in spite of all of this, it would be a significant accomplishment.
Even though he is fairly young at 38, he has a Super Bowl win as the assistant head coach of the Rams, in the 2021 season (Super Bowl LVI victory with Sean McVay). I'm thinking that if TB can showcase something good in these 7 remaining games (even if the Bears lose all of them) he could get an HC gig next season.
Coaches I could see interviewed and Bears would be interested:
Joe Brady Ben Johnson Thomas Brown Liam Coen Kellen Moore Drew Petzing Brian Flores
Thomas Brown has a priceless opportunity in these 7 remaining games. He has taken over a horribly broken offense mid-season, on a team falling apart under a failed head coach. The remaining schedule is brutal, and the offensive line looks bad. His rookie QB has so far played like the worst of the first three or four QBs taken in this draft. If he can get the offense to improve in spite of all of this, it would be a significant accomplishment.
Even though he is fairly young at 38, he has a Super Bowl win as the assistant head coach of the Rams, in the 2021 season (Super Bowl LVI victory with Sean McVay). I'm thinking that if TB can showcase something good in these 7 remaining games (even if the Bears lose all of them) he could get an HC gig next season.
I am going to be devils advocate here. His bar is low. Waldron was a semi disaster. So chances are he is going to look good even if he only does a decent job because Waldron was way below decent. So would we be settling on another meh coach that only really starts to show his deficiencies after a year or two?
And of course I know the flip side. If we let him go, he will end up being Belichick 2.0