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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 23, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -6

Dec 21, 2016 16:25:29 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Th count's up to 19. Fuller isn't gonna play either.

Butkus I'd have been happy to settle for 8 wins this year. Disappointed but not in the mood I'm in that's for sure. Even Fox doesn't use injuries as an excuse and it's about the only excuse he hasn't used. So why are you?

I'm sure we'll all learn to live with what ever decision is made about his coaching status but not all of us will like it and all I can say if he stays is.....BOHICA. It's not gonna change much because he's not the right HC for this team.

The best hope he may have of just holding onto his job is if Fangio stays and he can persuade McCoy to become his OC IF SD lets him go. If Fangio decides to leave and we allow that then I'd send Fox packing and hire again from scratch. The results will be pretty close to the same in the near term.

Make it 20 now. And I don't use them as excuses...I use them as REASONS!

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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 14:49:52 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 23, 2016 14:49:52 GMT -6

Dec 20, 2016 16:38:31 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

No real loss here. It's not like Royal was a playmaker anyway.

Yes, 18 guys on IR but most of them are irrelevant even when they're 100% healthy. This constant injury excuse/reason/call it whatever you want is a moot point.

10 of them are starters on this team, and a few more were active role player....but yeah...most of em were irrelevant...sure.

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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 16:37:10 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Dec 23, 2016 16:37:10 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 14:49:52 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

10 of them are starters on this team, and a few more were active role player....but yeah...most of em were irrelevant...sure.

Come on dude, just because they are starters on this shitty team doesn't mean they're actually worth anything. Most of them would never make it on other teams.

Let's see the IR list:

76 Mike Adams T (IR) - irrelevant
88 Rory Anderson TE (IR) - who?
71 Nick Becton OT (IR) - irrelevant
22 Brandon Boykin CB (IR) - irrelevant
6 Jay Cutler QB (IR) - important
95 Ego Ferguson DE (IR) - irrelevant
23 Kyle Fuller CB (IR) - somewhat important
55 Hroniss Grasu C (IR) - somewhat important
99 Lamarr Houston OLB (IR) - important
2 Brian Hoyer QB (IR) - irrelevant
45 Roy Robertson-Harris OLB (IR) - irrelevant
75 Kyle Long G (IR) - very important
43 Danny Mason ILB (IR) - who?
86 Zach Miller TE (IR) - somewhat important
19 Eddie Royal WR (IR) - irrelevant
8 Connor Shaw QB (IR) - irrelevant
93 Will Sutton NT (IR) - irrelevant
59 Danny Trevathan ILB (IR) - important
13 Kevin White WR (IR) first round bust - irrelevant
10 Marquess Wilson WR (IR) - can't play an entire fucking game without getting hurt - irrelevant

13 put of 20 players on IR are irrelevant. So basically we only have seven real players on IR, which is NO excuse or reason for that pathetic record.

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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 16:53:28 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 23, 2016 16:53:28 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 16:37:10 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Dec 23, 2016 14:49:52 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

10 of them are starters on this team, and a few more were active role player....but yeah...most of em were irrelevant...sure.

Come on dude, just because they are starters on this shitty team doesn't mean they're actually worth anything. Most of them would never make it on other teams.

Let's see the IR list:

76 Mike Adams T (IR) - irrelevant
88 Rory Anderson TE (IR) - who?
71 Nick Becton OT (IR) - irrelevant
22 Brandon Boykin CB (IR) - irrelevant
6 Jay Cutler QB (IR) - important
95 Ego Ferguson DE (IR) - irrelevant
23 Kyle Fuller CB (IR) - somewhat important
55 Hroniss Grasu C (IR) - somewhat important
99 Lamarr Houston OLB (IR) - important
2 Brian Hoyer QB (IR) - irrelevant
45 Roy Robertson-Harris OLB (IR) - irrelevant
75 Kyle Long G (IR) - very important
43 Danny Mason ILB (IR) - who?
86 Zach Miller TE (IR) - somewhat important
19 Eddie Royal WR (IR) - irrelevant
8 Connor Shaw QB (IR) - irrelevant
93 Will Sutton NT (IR) - irrelevant
59 Danny Trevathan ILB (IR) - important
13 Kevin White WR (IR) first round bust - irrelevant
10 Marquess Wilson WR (IR) - can't play an entire ****ing game without getting hurt - irrelevant

13 put of 20 players on IR are irrelevant. So basically we only have seven real players on IR, which is NO excuse or reason for that pathetic record.

LOL....the cherry picking going on in these conversations tells me all I need to know. I'm done with these conversations...they lack reason and logic and they're going no where. They're purely based on emotion. Enjoy fellas.

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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 17:18:51 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Dec 23, 2016 17:18:51 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 16:53:28 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

LOL....the cherry picking going on in these conversations tells me all I need to know. I'm done with these conversations...they lack reason and logic and they're going no where. They're purely based on emotion. Enjoy fellas.

What cherry picking? Do you honestly believe most of these players are actually helping the team win games when they're on the field?

Just curious. Maybe we haven't been watching the same games after all.

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Post by JABF on Dec 23, 2016 19:44:46 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Dec 21, 2016 16:25:29 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Th count's up to 19. Fuller isn't gonna play either.

Butkus I'd have been happy to settle for 8 wins this year. Disappointed but not in the mood I'm in that's for sure. Even Fox doesn't use injuries as an excuse and it's about the only excuse he hasn't used. So why are you?

I'm sure we'll all learn to live with what ever decision is made about his coaching status but not all of us will like it and all I can say if he stays is.....BOHICA. It's not gonna change much because he's not the right HC for this team.

The best hope he may have of just holding onto his job is if Fangio stays and he can persuade McCoy to become his OC IF SD lets him go. If Fangio decides to leave and we allow that then I'd send Fox packing and hire again from scratch. The results will be pretty close to the same in the near term.

Make it 20 now. And I don't use them as excuses...I use them as REASONS!

For what it's worth, I have followed your logic and agree 100%. No team loses 20 players to IR without being crippled. This isn't rocket-science, it's football-101 stuff.

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Bear Injury Thread Dec 23, 2016 19:47:00 GMT -6

Post by butkus3595 on Dec 23, 2016 19:47:00 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 17:18:51 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Dec 23, 2016 16:53:28 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

LOL....the cherry picking going on in these conversations tells me all I need to know. I'm done with these conversations...they lack reason and logic and they're going no where. They're purely based on emotion. Enjoy fellas.

What cherry picking? Do you honestly believe most of these players are actually helping the team win games when they're on the field?

Just curious. Maybe we haven't been watching the same games after all.

Yes, many of them when healthy are contributors to this team, and yes, would have helped us win games. You can't honestly believe we'd only have 3 wins if those 20 players weren't on the IR...can you?

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Post by butkus3595 on Dec 23, 2016 19:47:31 GMT -6

Dec 23, 2016 19:44:46 GMT -6 JABF said:

Dec 23, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Make it 20 now. And I don't use them as excuses...I use them as REASONS!

For what it's worth, I have followed your logic and agree 100%. No team loses 20 players to IR without being crippled. This isn't rocket-science, it's football-101 stuff.

Thank you JABF...sometimes I feel like I'm shouting into the wind here.

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