Well, I always thought that while Warren seemed sincere in wanting the Bears to stay on the lakefront, that it might have been a well played plan to tell AH, shit or get off the pot. I guess (especially with the opposition group on the lakefront) that we are about to find out which one it is.
I am thinking AH just made a pretty strong play. I still have no idea what Bears get from public stadium in the city, so guessing this puts Arlington Heights back in play.
All they got from talking about looking in the chicago area again was to get AH to blink, and they did, while bowing down begging for attention again.
sure. if they don't have to be on public land I 100% believe it. 0% shot they are interested in land they don't own, in an area so cramped they cannot create a "full experience". 100% guarantee the Mc's are interested in building their own Wrigleyville and reaping all the cash from it.
sure. if they don't have to be on public land I 100% believe it. 0% shot they are interested in land they don't own, in an area so cramped they cannot create a "full experience". 100% guarantee the Mc's are interested in building their own Wrigleyville and reaping all the cash from it.
There is another alternative in Chicago proper. Jerry Reinsdorf (Chicago White Sox) is looking at a fairly large plot of land on the near South Side of the city (link). He would put of a new baseball field for the Sox and develop some of the same venue attractions (restaurants, bars, clubs, shopping) as the Bears want to in Arlington Heights. I personally believe this is just another part of Warren's plan to put a terrible pressure on the Village of Arlington Heights, the surrounding villages and all relevant taxing bodies.
Reinsdorf's plan is to build on a 78 acre piece of publicly owned land about one mile due south of the loop. It is not on the lakefront. And it is located in a totally economically blighted area of the city. He has negotiated some really nifty tax incentives from the City of Chicago, and I bet Warren has gotten them (Reinsdorf and the City) to put together a proposal to the Bears that would grandfather the Bears in on these nice tax incentives. Part of the deal will be the Bears get land for free in a swap with the City/State for the old racetrack. That puts the prime land in a fairly affluent suburb under the control of folks who will happily make it a huge low/middle income development.
I personally believe this whole thig is a bluff to quash all the stupid stuff Arlington Heights, their schools and other taxing authorities have tried to pull. The Bears want to develop on the old racetrack. The land is 100% under team control and it is huge (something like 325 to 350 acres). If the Bears go in with the White Sox they will have a much smaller piece of land and another development partner to split the revenue with. But now the team has a serious alternative to use as a club in their suburban negotiations.
sure. if they don't have to be on public land I 100% believe it. 0% shot they are interested in land they don't own, in an area so cramped they cannot create a "full experience". 100% guarantee the Mc's are interested in building their own Wrigleyville and reaping all the cash from it.
There is another alternative in Chicago proper. Jerry Reinsdorf (Chicago White Sox) is looking at a fairly large plot of land on the near South Side of the city (link). He would put of a new baseball field for the Sox and develop some of the same venue attractions (restaurants, bars, clubs, shopping) as the Bears want to in Arlington Heights. I personally believe this is just another part of Warren's plan to put a terrible pressure on the Village of Arlington Heights, the surrounding villages and all relevant taxing bodies.
Reinsdorf's plan is to build on a 78 acre piece of publicly owned land about one mile due south of the loop. It is not on the lakefront. And it is located in a totally economically blighted area of the city. He has negotiated some really nifty tax incentives from the City of Chicago, and I bet Warren has gotten them (Reinsdorf and the City) to put together a proposal to the Bears that would grandfather the Bears in on these nice tax incentives. Part of the deal will be the Bears get land for free in a swap with the City/State for the old racetrack. That puts the prime land in a fairly affluent suburb under the control of folks who will happily make it a huge low/middle income development.
I personally believe this whole thig is a bluff to quash all the stupid stuff Arlington Heights, their schools and other taxing authorities have tried to pull. The Bears want to develop on the old racetrack. The land is 100% under team control and it is huge (something like 325 to 350 acres). If the Bears go in with the White Sox they will have a much smaller piece of land and another development partner to split the revenue with. But now the team has a serious alternative to use as a club in their suburban negotiations.
I do think the Bears are looking at a domed/roofed venue for year round use, outside of sports. I do think that solves a lot of issues as the taxes/costs get split. Not sure if the Sox want to play in a dome though; maybe if it's retractable.
There is another alternative in Chicago proper. Jerry Reinsdorf (Chicago White Sox) is looking at a fairly large plot of land on the near South Side of the city (link). He would put of a new baseball field for the Sox and develop some of the same venue attractions (restaurants, bars, clubs, shopping) as the Bears want to in Arlington Heights. I personally believe this is just another part of Warren's plan to put a terrible pressure on the Village of Arlington Heights, the surrounding villages and all relevant taxing bodies.
Reinsdorf's plan is to build on a 78 acre piece of publicly owned land about one mile due south of the loop. It is not on the lakefront. And it is located in a totally economically blighted area of the city. He has negotiated some really nifty tax incentives from the City of Chicago, and I bet Warren has gotten them (Reinsdorf and the City) to put together a proposal to the Bears that would grandfather the Bears in on these nice tax incentives. Part of the deal will be the Bears get land for free in a swap with the City/State for the old racetrack. That puts the prime land in a fairly affluent suburb under the control of folks who will happily make it a huge low/middle income development.
I personally believe this whole thig is a bluff to quash all the stupid stuff Arlington Heights, their schools and other taxing authorities have tried to pull. The Bears want to develop on the old racetrack. The land is 100% under team control and it is huge (something like 325 to 350 acres). If the Bears go in with the White Sox they will have a much smaller piece of land and another development partner to split the revenue with. But now the team has a serious alternative to use as a club in their suburban negotiations.
I do think the Bears are looking at a domed/roofed venue for year round use, outside of sports. I do think that solves a lot of issues as the taxes/costs get split. Not sure if the Sox want to play in a dome though; maybe if it's retractable.
I believe it would be a split property with both a baseball field and a football field as separate structures. This is why I am positive it is simply a gambit by Warren. With only 78 acres, what's left for other businesses after you eat up land for two stadiums and parking?
I do think the Bears are looking at a domed/roofed venue for year round use, outside of sports. I do think that solves a lot of issues as the taxes/costs get split. Not sure if the Sox want to play in a dome though; maybe if it's retractable.
I believe it would be a split property with both a baseball field and a football field as separate structures. This is why I am positive it is simply a gambit by Warren. With only 78 acres, what's left for other businesses after you eat up land for two stadiums and parking?
For it to work it would have to be a single stadium. We'll see, all options should be open until they get the right deal. Sweaty Teddy and his underlings really muffed everything after the purchase of AH.
sure. if they don't have to be on public land I 100% believe it. 0% shot they are interested in land they don't own, in an area so cramped they cannot create a "full experience". 100% guarantee the Mc's are interested in building their own Wrigleyville and reaping all the cash from it.
There is another alternative in Chicago proper. Jerry Reinsdorf (Chicago White Sox) is looking at a fairly large plot of land on the near South Side of the city (link). He would put of a new baseball field for the Sox and develop some of the same venue attractions (restaurants, bars, clubs, shopping) as the Bears want to in Arlington Heights. I personally believe this is just another part of Warren's plan to put a terrible pressure on the Village of Arlington Heights, the surrounding villages and all relevant taxing bodies.
Reinsdorf's plan is to build on a 78 acre piece of publicly owned land about one mile due south of the loop. It is not on the lakefront. And it is located in a totally economically blighted area of the city. He has negotiated some really nifty tax incentives from the City of Chicago, and I bet Warren has gotten them (Reinsdorf and the City) to put together a proposal to the Bears that would grandfather the Bears in on these nice tax incentives. Part of the deal will be the Bears get land for free in a swap with the City/State for the old racetrack. That puts the prime land in a fairly affluent suburb under the control of folks who will happily make it a huge low/middle income development.
I personally believe this whole thig is a bluff to quash all the stupid stuff Arlington Heights, their schools and other taxing authorities have tried to pull. The Bears want to develop on the old racetrack. The land is 100% under team control and it is huge (something like 325 to 350 acres). If the Bears go in with the White Sox they will have a much smaller piece of land and another development partner to split the revenue with. But now the team has a serious alternative to use as a club in their suburban negotiations.
I must be more gullible. As much as I think the AH scenario is best, Warrens solution for the Vikings mimics the road he appears to be on with the Chicago scenario, and I do believe he likes that path. Having said that, I still hope he makes AH happen.
I believe it would be a split property with both a baseball field and a football field as separate structures. This is why I am positive it is simply a gambit by Warren. With only 78 acres, what's left for other businesses after you eat up land for two stadiums and parking?
For it to work it would have to be a single stadium. We'll see, all options should be open until they get the right deal. Sweaty Teddy and his underlings really muffed everything after the purchase of AH.
As I said before, he is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
There is another alternative in Chicago proper. Jerry Reinsdorf (Chicago White Sox) is looking at a fairly large plot of land on the near South Side of the city (link). He would put of a new baseball field for the Sox and develop some of the same venue attractions (restaurants, bars, clubs, shopping) as the Bears want to in Arlington Heights. I personally believe this is just another part of Warren's plan to put a terrible pressure on the Village of Arlington Heights, the surrounding villages and all relevant taxing bodies.
Reinsdorf's plan is to build on a 78 acre piece of publicly owned land about one mile due south of the loop. It is not on the lakefront. And it is located in a totally economically blighted area of the city. He has negotiated some really nifty tax incentives from the City of Chicago, and I bet Warren has gotten them (Reinsdorf and the City) to put together a proposal to the Bears that would grandfather the Bears in on these nice tax incentives. Part of the deal will be the Bears get land for free in a swap with the City/State for the old racetrack. That puts the prime land in a fairly affluent suburb under the control of folks who will happily make it a huge low/middle income development.
I personally believe this whole thig is a bluff to quash all the stupid stuff Arlington Heights, their schools and other taxing authorities have tried to pull. The Bears want to develop on the old racetrack. The land is 100% under team control and it is huge (something like 325 to 350 acres). If the Bears go in with the White Sox they will have a much smaller piece of land and another development partner to split the revenue with. But now the team has a serious alternative to use as a club in their suburban negotiations.
I must be more gullible. As much as I think the AH scenario is best, Warrens solution for the Vikings mimics the road he appears to be on with the Chicago scenario, and I do believe he likes that path. Having said that, I still hope he makes AH happen.
While anything is possible on that front, I don't think that a site/package for a stadium in the City of Chicago can match one in the suburbs for potential revenue streams. So, I personally do not think they will end up in the city.
The McCaskey family may be a greater need for revenue as opposed to other ownership groups in the NFL. They have a larger and faster growing number of pieces in that pie to support as the family gets larger. I'm sure we will learn more when Virginia passes, and we get a peek into their succession plans.
For it to work it would have to be a single stadium. We'll see, all options should be open until they get the right deal. Sweaty Teddy and his underlings really muffed everything after the purchase of AH.
As I said before, he is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
I must be more gullible. As much as I think the AH scenario is best, Warrens solution for the Vikings mimics the road he appears to be on with the Chicago scenario, and I do believe he likes that path. Having said that, I still hope he makes AH happen.
While anything is possible on that front, I don't think that a site/package for a stadium in the City of Chicago can match one in the suburbs for potential revenue streams. So, I personally do not think they will end up in the city.
The McCaskey family may be a greater need for revenue as opposed to other ownership groups in the NFL. They have a larger and faster growing number of pieces in that pie to support as the family gets larger. I'm sure we will learn more when Virginia passes, and we get a peek into their succession plans.
I agree. That and actual ownership of the land make the AH site the frontrunner IMO, but I am not the one making the decision. I still think Warren wants it to ne in Chicago.
