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Jim Harbaugh's "Dream Job" is..... Dec 18, 2016 11:02:52 GMT -6

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Dec 18, 2016 2:12:01 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Dec 17, 2016 7:50:30 GMT -6 JABF said:

It's pretty established that Ditka lost the team after the strike by the players. The team - especially the great leaders on that team - turned their back on him. The statements from the players of that time have been posted many times over the years.

He lost his team.

And frankly he wasn't that good of a coach. He was gifted with (arguably) the most talent of any coach in the super bowl era, and with a brilliant defensive coach. Buddy Ryan and Ed Hughes (his coordinators) were brilliant coaches. All Ditka had to do before he lost the team's players trust was to chew gum and spit on the sideline. I've always liked Ditka, and I think he is a good man, but he was anything but a brilliant coach. It was time to fire him - and then he went to New Orleans and crapped the bed down there.

All somewhat true but Mikey McCaskey and the McCaskey clan are a low key bunch who do not like negative press or coaches and players calling too much attention to themselves. Ditka was on borrowed time with Mikey from the day he became DaCoach and began making TV appearances and speaking his mind as only Ditka can.

The battle between Ditka and Mikey was joined in 1986 when Jerry Vainisi was fired and replaced by that asshat Mikey. From then on it was only a matter of time until Mikey would eventually find an excuse to fire him even though GSH had assured him of the job for as long as he wanted it. That came after the '92 season when he went 5-11 but that was preceded by 4 years of going 40/24/.625 which is pretty damn close to his career W/L percentage of .631 as the Bears HC.

If players turned on him after the strike in 1987 his record doesn't indicate that.

Ditka was a motivator not a strategist but that's not to say he didn't know football and had no coaching talent at all. Hughes and Buddy were difference makers no doubt as were others like Dick Stanfil but the Bears kept on winning even after Buddy and Hughes were gone. Give Mikey's choice to replace him you'll never get me to agree it was time to fire him and I'll take the Ditka era over any I've experienced since. The guy won.

I agree with all of this. I think people are just too down on him. He was good for the team as both a player and a coach. I don't see much to tarnish that even in hindsight. Other than maybe having been a great coach, I'm come to understand he was a good coach. Other than that, not sure what all the hate is about.

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Jim Harbaugh's "Dream Job" is..... Dec 18, 2016 12:21:29 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

Post by JABF on Dec 18, 2016 12:21:29 GMT -6

Dec 18, 2016 11:02:52 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Dec 18, 2016 2:12:01 GMT -6 @soulman said:

All somewhat true but Mikey McCaskey and the McCaskey clan are a low key bunch who do not like negative press or coaches and players calling too much attention to themselves. Ditka was on borrowed time with Mikey from the day he became DaCoach and began making TV appearances and speaking his mind as only Ditka can.

The battle between Ditka and Mikey was joined in 1986 when Jerry Vainisi was fired and replaced by that asshat Mikey. From then on it was only a matter of time until Mikey would eventually find an excuse to fire him even though GSH had assured him of the job for as long as he wanted it. That came after the '92 season when he went 5-11 but that was preceded by 4 years of going 40/24/.625 which is pretty damn close to his career W/L percentage of .631 as the Bears HC.

If players turned on him after the strike in 1987 his record doesn't indicate that.

Ditka was a motivator not a strategist but that's not to say he didn't know football and had no coaching talent at all. Hughes and Buddy were difference makers no doubt as were others like Dick Stanfil but the Bears kept on winning even after Buddy and Hughes were gone. Give Mikey's choice to replace him you'll never get me to agree it was time to fire him and I'll take the Ditka era over any I've experienced since. The guy won.

I agree with all of this. I think people are just too down on him. He was good for the team as both a player and a coach. I don't see much to tarnish that even in hindsight. Other than maybe having been a great coach, I'm come to understand he was a good coach. Other than that, not sure what all the hate is about.

After the strike he couldn't motivate anyone anymore. The team quit on him. He went to New Orleans and was a disaster there - because he no longer had an obscene amount of talent like he had here in Chicago. I love Da Coach, but we won in spite of him, not because of him. If you have never read about the players turning their back on him, you can just Google and read. It was worse than Trestman by far. They hated him. They had zero respect for him. The guy had become a caricature. LOL, I like Staley Da Bear too. But he doesn't do much for us as far as winning games. That was pretty much Ditka. He could look cool chewing gum, spitting and grabbing his genitals on the sideline though. I did like the guy. He just wasn't much of a coach. He should have won multiple super bowls with the talent he had. Of course he couldn't once Buddy left. They had to fire him. Poor New Orleans was collateral damage when they hired him. He mortgaged their future before he left there. But that's another Ditka failure story.

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Jim Harbaugh's "Dream Job" is..... Dec 18, 2016 18:39:57 GMT -6

Post by blueshoes on Dec 18, 2016 18:39:57 GMT -6

Dec 18, 2016 2:12:01 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Dec 17, 2016 7:50:30 GMT -6 JABF said:

It's pretty established that Ditka lost the team after the strike by the players. The team - especially the great leaders on that team - turned their back on him. The statements from the players of that time have been posted many times over the years.

He lost his team.

And frankly he wasn't that good of a coach. He was gifted with (arguably) the most talent of any coach in the super bowl era, and with a brilliant defensive coach. Buddy Ryan and Ed Hughes (his coordinators) were brilliant coaches. All Ditka had to do before he lost the team's players trust was to chew gum and spit on the sideline. I've always liked Ditka, and I think he is a good man, but he was anything but a brilliant coach. It was time to fire him - and then he went to New Orleans and crapped the bed down there.

All somewhat true but Mikey McCaskey and the McCaskey clan are a low key bunch who do not like negative press or coaches and players calling too much attention to themselves. Ditka was on borrowed time with Mikey from the day he became DaCoach and began making TV appearances and speaking his mind as only Ditka can.

The battle between Ditka and Mikey was joined in 1986 when Jerry Vainisi was fired and replaced by that asshat Mikey. From then on it was only a matter of time until Mikey would eventually find an excuse to fire him even though GSH had assured him of the job for as long as he wanted it. That came after the '92 season when he went 5-11 but that was preceded by 4 years of going 40/24/.625 which is pretty damn close to his career W/L percentage of .631 as the Bears HC.

If players turned on him after the strike in 1987 his record doesn't indicate that.

Ditka was a motivator not a strategist but that's not to say he didn't know football and had no coaching talent at all. Hughes and Buddy were difference makers no doubt as were others like Dick Stanfil but the Bears kept on winning even after Buddy and Hughes were gone. Give Mikey's choice to replace him you'll never get me to agree it was time to fire him and I'll take the Ditka era over any I've experienced since. The guy won.

The Bears haven't done much since Mikey ... and then Phillips . THEY are the 2 "effete's" who have doomed this franchise ever since . George is just too dumb to realize it .

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Jim Harbaugh's "Dream Job" is..... Dec 18, 2016 20:52:40 GMT -6

Post by billymurray on Dec 18, 2016 20:52:40 GMT -6

Dec 15, 2016 20:01:45 GMT -6 mrdynamite32 said:

As it stands now, Harbaugh's "dream job" is the head coach of Michigan football. Dude's practically a god over there. He could go to Chicago and be the head coach. The question is, what would it take to convince him to leave a place where he's practically a king?

Remember Jim played under da coach who despite retrospection by many fans (after stories of Ditka's endorsement deals, Buddy Ryan feud, feelings that he was the cause the Bears came away with only 1 Super Bowl, etc.) was and still is king in Chicago. Harbaugh knows first hand the legendary passion of Chicago Bear's fans and that if he were to bring a Lombardi trophy to Chicago he would be the king of the greatest sports city in the country. Bears fans were the origins of one the most famous skits of SNL. Harbaugh loves the limelight. He was at the Cubs World Series game. He knows that the Cubs World Series parade was the largest human gathering in N. America. There is no doubt if one were to be king of a city, Chicago may trump all.

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Post by jusnixx on Dec 19, 2016 12:42:01 GMT -6

Does anybody watch FS1? My buddy told me that last night they were talking about Harbaugh to the NFL and its believed there is more than one NFL team trying to lure Harbaugh. Is he f'n with me or can someone confirm this?

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