Belle was NOTHING until Brady came around. He had been fired from Cleveland, and didn't even land a HC job after that or a DC job, he was "assistant head coach" and DB coach.
You really going to use the Cleveland Browns on why he isn't a great coach? Fun fact ever since he left no HC was able to match his level of wins or playoffs...
You really going to use what he did AFTER getting hired as an assitant HC/DB coach, and then HC to pretend NE assumed he was a great hc?
Surprised some of you question the "why" of it all...not saying he would leave Mich in a heartbeat this offseason...that would be an odd move on his part...but he did just throw his name in the mix for future years...
But back to the why...it is the NFL!..which to my old school ass, still means better than NCAA i guess. Or at least it used to.
I guess my competitive ass would rather be George Halas instead of Bear Bryant....but that's just my opinion
You really going to use the Cleveland Browns on why he isn't a great coach? Fun fact ever since he left no HC was able to match his level of wins or playoffs...
You really going to use what he did AFTER getting hired as an assitant HC/DB coach, and then HC to pretend NE assumed he was a great hc?
IF he continues to coach after Brady retires , then we'll see how he handles having what's likely to be avg QB's . That's providing that the law of averages holds , and gives him the types of QB's the rest of the league has had to make due with - if he takes an avg guy and figures out how to make him better than he really is , then he's truly a great coach .
You really going to use what he did AFTER getting hired as an assitant HC/DB coach, and then HC to pretend NE assumed he was a great hc?
IF he continues to coach after Brady retires , then we'll see how he handles having what's likely to be avg QB's . That's providing that the law of averages holds , and gives him the types of QB's the rest of the league has had to make due with - if he takes an avg guy and figures out how to make him better than he really is , then he's truly a great coach .
Or maybe Brady goes to another team and looks like Jamarcus Russell.
I've been telling people Harbaugh loves Chicago...
Let's give the man his money and sign him up next offseason.
No problem. How 'bout if you pony up what it would take to buy him out of his Michigan deal, pay Fox off yourself, and then kick in the difference between the $5 mil the Bears might be persuaded to spend on a HC and the $10 mil or so Harbaugh gets now.
How well do that plan work if it's your check book needed to make it happen? No? Well than it won't. Not even in your wet dreams.
As it stands now, Harbaugh's "dream job" is the head coach of Michigan football. Dude's practically a god over there. He could go to Chicago and be the head coach. The question is, what would it take to convince him to leave a place where he's practically a king?
If you ask those who favor it to put a number to it they won't because they can't. He has a contract at Michigan to honor and they won't let him out of that no matter how much he wants to go elsewhere. There's a ton of financial considerations none of which would be met by the Bears in order to make it happen.
Then you have the the type A personality thing to deal with and the McCaskeys prefer low key coaches without much personality. That's the principal reason Ditka was fired and why most every HC hired since had the personality of a damp dish rag. So on that basis alone Harbaugh isn't a fit or at least not for as long as the McCaskeys have to approve a hire.
Based on all of this you can quote me as saying Jim Harbaugh has no chance at all of becoming the Bears HC as long as it's McCaskey money that will have to be paid to get him and keep him. They simply don't hire people like him. They fire them.
As it stands now, Harbaugh's "dream job" is the head coach of Michigan football. Dude's practically a god over there. He could go to Chicago and be the head coach. The question is, what would it take to convince him to leave a place where he's practically a king?
If you ask those who favor it to put a number to it they won't because they can't. He has a contract at Michigan to honor and they won't let him out of that no matter how much he wants to go elsewhere. There's a ton of financial considerations none of which would be met by the Bears in order to make it happen.
Then you have the the type A personality thing to deal with and the McCaskeys prefer low key coaches without much personality. That's the principal reason Ditka was fired and why most every HC hired since had the personality of a damp dish rag. So on that basis alone Harbaugh isn't a fit or at least not for as long as the McCaskeys have to approve a hire.
Based on all of this you can quote me as saying Jim Harbaugh has no chance at all of becoming the Bears HC as long as it's McCaskey money that will have to be paid to get him and keep him. They simply don't hire people like him. They fire them.
It's pretty established that Ditka lost the team after the strike by the players. The team - especially the great leaders on that team - turned their back on him. The statements from the players of that time have been posted many times over the years.
He lost his team.
And frankly he wasn't that good of a coach. He was gifted with (arguably) the most talent of any coach in the super bowl era, and with a brilliant defensive coach. Buddy Ryan and Ed Hughes (his coordinators) were brilliant coaches. All Ditka had to do before he lost the team's players trust was to chew gum and spit on the sideline. I've always liked Ditka, and I think he is a good man, but he was anything but a brilliant coach. It was time to fire him - and then he went to New Orleans and crapped the bed down there.
If you ask those who favor it to put a number to it they won't because they can't. He has a contract at Michigan to honor and they won't let him out of that no matter how much he wants to go elsewhere. There's a ton of financial considerations none of which would be met by the Bears in order to make it happen.
Then you have the the type A personality thing to deal with and the McCaskeys prefer low key coaches without much personality. That's the principal reason Ditka was fired and why most every HC hired since had the personality of a damp dish rag. So on that basis alone Harbaugh isn't a fit or at least not for as long as the McCaskeys have to approve a hire.
Based on all of this you can quote me as saying Jim Harbaugh has no chance at all of becoming the Bears HC as long as it's McCaskey money that will have to be paid to get him and keep him. They simply don't hire people like him. They fire them.
It's pretty established that Ditka lost the team after the strike by the players. The team - especially the great leaders on that team - turned their back on him. The statements from the players of that time have been posted many times over the years.
He lost his team.
And frankly he wasn't that good of a coach. He was gifted with (arguably) the most talent of any coach in the super bowl era, and with a brilliant defensive coach. Buddy Ryan and Ed Hughes (his coordinators) were brilliant coaches. All Ditka had to do before he lost the team's players trust was to chew gum and spit on the sideline. I've always liked Ditka, and I think he is a good man, but he was anything but a brilliant coach. It was time to fire him - and then he went to New Orleans and crapped the bed down there.
All somewhat true but Mikey McCaskey and the McCaskey clan are a low key bunch who do not like negative press or coaches and players calling too much attention to themselves. Ditka was on borrowed time with Mikey from the day he became DaCoach and began making TV appearances and speaking his mind as only Ditka can.
The battle between Ditka and Mikey was joined in 1986 when Jerry Vainisi was fired and replaced by that asshat Mikey. From then on it was only a matter of time until Mikey would eventually find an excuse to fire him even though GSH had assured him of the job for as long as he wanted it. That came after the '92 season when he went 5-11 but that was preceded by 4 years of going 40/24/.625 which is pretty damn close to his career W/L percentage of .631 as the Bears HC.
If players turned on him after the strike in 1987 his record doesn't indicate that.
Ditka was a motivator not a strategist but that's not to say he didn't know football and had no coaching talent at all. Hughes and Buddy were difference makers no doubt as were others like Dick Stanfil but the Bears kept on winning even after Buddy and Hughes were gone. Give Mikey's choice to replace him you'll never get me to agree it was time to fire him and I'll take the Ditka era over any I've experienced since. The guy won.