If Fields was ANY good, had ANY starting potential, he would have gone for WAY more. This had nothing to do w/them having him over a barrel; b/c the barrel doesn't exist if Fields was any good.
Watson got Hou a haul; while on unknown length of suspension and it was known Hou was moving on. Fields is bad, and his value reflected it.
It was a combination of two things: (1) Fields is still unproven, and don’t quote statistics because I have withdrawn from the “Is Fields any good?” debate, and (2) Poles HAD TO TRADE Fields, and every GM knew it.
1 is the only thing that matters, a 3 year starting qb that is unproven has no actual value. If he was any good 1 the Bears wouldn't be trading for him, and 2 the 20+ qb needy teams would have traded for him to be the starter. None did. The NFL is screaming at you what Fields is, and some just refuse to believe it.
It was a combination of two things: (1) Fields is still unproven, and don’t quote statistics because I have withdrawn from the “Is Fields any good?” debate, and (2) Poles HAD TO TRADE Fields, and every GM knew it.
1 is the only thing that matters, a 3 year starting qb that is unproven has no actual value. If he was any good 1 the Bears wouldn't be trading for him, and 2 the 20+ qb needy teams would have traded for him to be the starter. None did. The NFL is screaming at you what Fields is, and some just refuse to believe it.
The Bears have #1 pick with opportunity to draft immortal generational QB. Poles basically said it himself. They would not be virtually giving away Fields if all they had is the #9 pick. Poles got an earlier offer from the Eagles, but got greedy, then panicked as all the veterans signed with other teams. He set his price too high and then waited til only one or two trading partners remained. Fields is a better QB than Pickett, Darnold, Minshew. The other footnote to my #1 is that a GM would have to make decision in May about 5th yr. option. As I said on another thread, that would give the GM TWO ways to look like an idiot a year from now.
1 is the only thing that matters, a 3 year starting qb that is unproven has no actual value. If he was any good 1 the Bears wouldn't be trading for him, and 2 the 20+ qb needy teams would have traded for him to be the starter. None did. The NFL is screaming at you what Fields is, and some just refuse to believe it.
The Bears have #1 pick with opportunity to draft immortal generational QB. Poles basically said it himself. They would not be virtually giving away Fields if all they had is the #9 pick. Poles got an earlier offer from the Eagles, but got greedy, then panicked as all the veterans signed with other teams. He set his price too high and then waited til only one or two trading partners remained. Fields is a better QB than Pickett, Darnold, Minshew. The other footnote to my #1 is that a GM would have to make decision in May about 5th yr. option. As I said on another thread, that would give the GM TWO ways to look like an idiot a year from now.
There have been so many generational players in my lifetime that I fear I am millenium old. Possibly immortal
1 is the only thing that matters, a 3 year starting qb that is unproven has no actual value. If he was any good 1 the Bears wouldn't be trading for him, and 2 the 20+ qb needy teams would have traded for him to be the starter. None did. The NFL is screaming at you what Fields is, and some just refuse to believe it.
The Bears have #1 pick with opportunity to draft immortal generational QB. Poles basically said it himself. They would not be virtually giving away Fields if all they had is the #9 pick. Poles got an earlier offer from the Eagles, but got greedy, then panicked as all the veterans signed with other teams. He set his price too high and then waited til only one or two trading partners remained. Fields is a better QB than Pickett, Darnold, Minshew. The other footnote to my #1 is that a GM would have to make decision in May about 5th yr. option. As I said on another thread, that would give the GM TWO ways to look like an idiot a year from now.
no, no he didn't get greedy. There was no better offer, it didn't exist. There was no market for JF1, bc he's not seen as a starter in the NFL, he's seen as a backup. Learn from what you've seen previously on the Bears. Orton, Rex, Cutler, Mitch. Learn from what you saw this year in the trade/FA. 32 NFL teams are telling you he's not seen as a legit starter, b/c he's not.
If he was seen as a starter someone would have traded a ton for him. Even Pitt doesn't see him as a starter, they signed Russell for that role. Backups don't net you day 1 or 2 draft picks.
The Bears have #1 pick with opportunity to draft immortal generational QB. Poles basically said it himself. They would not be virtually giving away Fields if all they had is the #9 pick. Poles got an earlier offer from the Eagles, but got greedy, then panicked as all the veterans signed with other teams. He set his price too high and then waited til only one or two trading partners remained. Fields is a better QB than Pickett, Darnold, Minshew. The other footnote to my #1 is that a GM would have to make decision in May about 5th yr. option. As I said on another thread, that would give the GM TWO ways to look like an idiot a year from now.
no, no he didn't get greedy. There was no better offer, it didn't exist. There was no market for JF1, bc he's not seen as a starter in the NFL, he's seen as a backup. Learn from what you've seen previously on the Bears. Orton, Rex, Cutler, Mitch. Learn from what you saw this year in the trade/FA. 32 NFL teams are telling you he's not seen as a legit starter, b/c he's not.
If he was seen as a starter someone would have traded a ton for him. Even Pitt doesn't see him as a starter, they signed Russell for that role. Backups don't net you day 1 or 2 draft picks.
I forgot to add Howell to my list, and Seahawks are (unfortunately) going to have him as their starter following Geno. And the Steelers will have Fields as their starter following Russ. It could even happen this year, if Russ is injured. If he plays well, that would blow your mind.
I don’t know the Eagles offer, but I’d bet it was better than a 6th round pick that Poles turned down.
a 2025 6th round pick. That might go to a 2025 4th round pick. They got themselves a hell of a QB, IMO.
I will be following him
He's a backup behind Wilson.
I don't have a direct line to the Steelers like you do. I thought maybe since they had 2 QBs, they would see which one is better. Although, I do like the idea of Fields sitting behind Wilson for a little bit.
Underwhelmed by this. If all you are getting is a 6th / potential 4th, why not keep Fields as a backup in case Williams needs time to develop / becomes injured.
You can't keep him here. It will divide the locker room too much.
I don't have a direct line to the Steelers like you do. I thought maybe since they had 2 QBs, they would see which one is better. Although, I do like the idea of Fields sitting behind Wilson for a little bit.
Lol, let's keep living in the clouds. Fields value is a backup. I've told many here many times. His reads are bad and he is late when it comes to throwing to his guys. He rather run the ball than throw.