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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 19, 2024 22:49:54 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 19, 2024 22:49:54 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 22:23:02 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 19, 2024 22:03:02 GMT -6 motm said:

No they won't. Fields does not throw that much and will never throw that much. At best you might get 500 yards more out of fields giving him 3000 total yards. You be wasting someone here. Rather that be Kmet, DJ Moore, or Harrison.

News flash: Gestsy is gone. The new OC (hopefully) will throw enough to win the game. You can have 2500+ rushing yards + 3500+ passing yards yielding 6000+ TOTAL OFFENSE. I can’t get you or MP to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

You act like there isn't anymore talented WR's in the class outside of Harrison.

These are the top WRs in this class. One of those 3 will be there. Sure it won't be Harrison but what's more important a 4k passer who can throw 30+ TDs or a hall of fame WR with a bad QB throwing him the ball? I wouldn't mind Poles trying to trade up to #5 for Nabers. He reminds me of Chase. This class is loaded with WR talent.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 19, 2024 23:13:09 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Jan 19, 2024 23:13:09 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 22:49:54 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 19, 2024 22:23:02 GMT -6 davidl said:

News flash: Gestsy is gone. The new OC (hopefully) will throw enough to win the game. You can have 2500+ rushing yards + 3500+ passing yards yielding 6000+ TOTAL OFFENSE. I can’t get you or MP to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

You act like there isn't anymore talented WR's in the class outside of Harrison.

These are the top WRs in this class. One of those 3 will be there. Sure it won't be Harrison but what's more important a 4k passer who can throw 30+ TDs or a hall of fame WR with a bad QB throwing him the ball? I wouldn't mind Poles trying to trade up to #5 for Nabers. He reminds me of Chase. This class is loaded with WR talent.

You are intoxicated with statistics. Watch Harrison. These other guys are good receivers. I have seen them all except Coleman. Harrison is Randy Moss 2.0. You can call that “generational talent” or whatever, but that’s what he is.

How much you think it’s going to take to get a team to move down from #5 to #9? That’s your other problem.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 19, 2024 23:20:26 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 19, 2024 23:20:26 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 23:13:09 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 19, 2024 22:49:54 GMT -6 motm said:

You act like there isn't anymore talented WR's in the class outside of Harrison.

These are the top WRs in this class. One of those 3 will be there. Sure it won't be Harrison but what's more important a 4k passer who can throw 30+ TDs or a hall of fame WR with a bad QB throwing him the ball? I wouldn't mind Poles trying to trade up to #5 for Nabers. He reminds me of Chase. This class is loaded with WR talent.

You are intoxicated with statistics. Watch Harrison. These other guys are good receivers. Harrison is Randy Moss 2.0. You can call that “generational talent” or whatever, but that’s what he is.

How much you think it’s going to take to get a team to move down from #5 to #9? That’s your other problem.

We can base it off the recent trade the Texans did from 12 - 3. We shouldn't have to give up as much.

Trade: The Houston Texans traded away the No. 12 and No. 33 selections in 2023, plus a 2024 first-round pick and 2024 third-round pick for the No. 105 selection and right to take Will Anderson Jr. at No. 3 overall.

Of course we wouldn't give up that much. Since theirs was a 9 pick move up while ours is 4.

#9 over pick is valued at 1350

While the #5 overall pick is valued at 1700.

Meaning you only need 350 difference.

I give up our 2nd round next year (We got two) and our 4th round this year (We got two). And our 3rd round in 2025.

Don't act like Nabers is a trash WR. Dude is great and will be a great NFL player.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 19, 2024 23:38:24 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Jan 19, 2024 23:38:24 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 23:20:26 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 19, 2024 23:13:09 GMT -6 davidl said:

You are intoxicated with statistics. Watch Harrison. These other guys are good receivers. Harrison is Randy Moss 2.0. You can call that “generational talent” or whatever, but that’s what he is.

How much you think it’s going to take to get a team to move down from #5 to #9? That’s your other problem.

We can base it off the recent trade the Texans did from 12 - 3. We shouldn't have to give up as much.

Trade: The Houston Texans traded away the No. 12 and No. 33 selections in 2023, plus a 2024 first-round pick and 2024 third-round pick for the No. 105 selection and right to take Will Anderson Jr. at No. 3 overall.

Of course we wouldn't give up that much. Since theirs was a 9 pick move up while ours is 4.

#9 over pick is valued at 1350

While the #5 overall pick is valued at 1700.

Meaning you only need 350 difference.

I give up our 2nd round next year (We got two) and our 4th round this year (We got two). And our 3rd round in 2025.

Don't act like Nabers is a trash WR. Dude is great and will be a great NFL player.

You might get #5 for that, if Poles would go for it. I never said Nabers is trash. I think he and Odunze will go top-8.

I did notice that you declined again my invitation to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 19, 2024 23:48:04 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 19, 2024 23:48:04 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 23:38:24 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 19, 2024 23:20:26 GMT -6 motm said:

We can base it off the recent trade the Texans did from 12 - 3. We shouldn't have to give up as much.

Trade: The Houston Texans traded away the No. 12 and No. 33 selections in 2023, plus a 2024 first-round pick and 2024 third-round pick for the No. 105 selection and right to take Will Anderson Jr. at No. 3 overall.

Of course we wouldn't give up that much. Since theirs was a 9 pick move up while ours is 4.

#9 over pick is valued at 1350

While the #5 overall pick is valued at 1700.

Meaning you only need 350 difference.

I give up our 2nd round next year (We got two) and our 4th round this year (We got two). And our 3rd round in 2025.

Don't act like Nabers is a trash WR. Dude is great and will be a great NFL player.

You might get #5 for that, if Poles would go for it. I never said Nabers is trash. I think he and Odunze will go top-8.

I did notice that you declined again my invitation to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

Total offense is irrelevant if your QB can't even throw to average NFL levels. Hurts and Jackson can throw 3.5-4k yards... This is Fields career high at 2.5.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 0:04:59 GMT -6 jusnixx likes this

Post by davidl on Jan 20, 2024 0:04:59 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 23:48:04 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 19, 2024 23:38:24 GMT -6 davidl said:

You might get #5 for that, if Poles would go for it. I never said Nabers is trash. I think he and Odunze will go top-8.

I did notice that you declined again my invitation to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

Total offense is irrelevant if your QB can't even throw to average NFL levels. Hurts and Jackson can throw 3.5-4k yards... This is Fields career high at 2.5.

Try looking out the front windshield instead of the rear view mirror for a change and factor in:
— Getsy gone.
— Harrison added
— new center
— further development of first/second year players

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 0:20:24 GMT -6

Post by motm on Jan 20, 2024 0:20:24 GMT -6

Jan 20, 2024 0:04:59 GMT -6 davidl said:

Jan 19, 2024 23:48:04 GMT -6 motm said:

Total offense is irrelevant if your QB can't even throw to average NFL levels. Hurts and Jackson can throw 3.5-4k yards... This is Fields career high at 2.5.

Try looking out the front windshield instead of the rear view mirror for a change and factor in:
— Getsy gone.
— Harrison added
— new center
— further development of first/second year players

Try upgrading an engine to allow your car the ability to succeed.

- Williams
- Nabers with the trade offer I gave you.
- New center with Fields traded with a 2nd round pick
- 4 years of a rookie contract

I win in the end of what's better.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 0:42:11 GMT -6 via mobile riczaj01 likes this

Post by AlexM on Jan 20, 2024 0:42:11 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 18:20:24 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

I just watched the H&J episode you described.

All I say is ..... WOOF

Fields has some really brutal stats out there in the 4th Q.

Love H&J and follow them occasionally, but I dont need them to tell me how brutal Fields/Bears were in the 4th.
Talking/teaching all thru the games with my kid this year, made me analyse games more closely and talking at loud about them made me realize that we are pretty much done , if we dont have a BIG lead starting 4th.
Fields will NOT throw a TD. Even if 4th q lasted for half an hour.
He is very likely to fumble though. Not so much get intercepted as he gets scared as shit to throw.

That is my conclusion watchin him play, I may be wrong stat wise, but thats what it is.
No faith in him, at all, even in Ws he plays poorly in 4th.

For all the mental strength of Field I read about here I sure feel he is scared as the game progresses.

Im done with him, next please.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 1:06:05 GMT -6

Post by davidl on Jan 20, 2024 1:06:05 GMT -6

Jan 20, 2024 0:20:24 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 20, 2024 0:04:59 GMT -6 davidl said:

Try looking out the front windshield instead of the rear view mirror for a change and factor in:
— Getsy gone.
— Harrison added
— new center
— further development of first/second year players

Try upgrading an engine to allow your car the ability to succeed.

- Williams
- Nabers with the trade offer I gave you.
- New center with Fields traded with a 2nd round pick
- 4 years of a rookie contract

I win in the end of what's better.

You might be right. There’s no guarantee on either of these plans. Sometimes I think JAFB has the right attitude. Just try to be optimistic that it all works out. But that not easy after watching the Bears miss at the QB position for decades. At least with your stats, there’s a 70% chance with Williams.

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Jordan Love, in his 1st season as an NFL starter...... Jan 20, 2024 5:43:41 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Jan 20, 2024 5:43:41 GMT -6

Jan 19, 2024 22:49:54 GMT -6 motm said:

Jan 19, 2024 22:23:02 GMT -6 davidl said:

News flash: Gestsy is gone. The new OC (hopefully) will throw enough to win the game. You can have 2500+ rushing yards + 3500+ passing yards yielding 6000+ TOTAL OFFENSE. I can’t get you or MP to talk about TOTAL OFFENSE.

You act like there isn't anymore talented WR's in the class outside of Harrison.

These are the top WRs in this class. One of those 3 will be there. Sure it won't be Harrison but what's more important a 4k passer who can throw 30+ TDs or a hall of fame WR with a bad QB throwing him the ball? I wouldn't mind Poles trying to trade up to #5 for Nabers. He reminds me of Chase. This class is loaded with WR talent.

Last year JSN was the must have WR, and Carter was the only pick to in the top 10. These hardline stances of college players is thanks to Jim Rome and his hot take culture that all but ruined all talk radio and social media. JSN was hardly the best rookie WR last year, not even that close. And after a hot start Carter cooled quickly; Will Anderson more tackles, more sacks more stuffs. Carter did have to forced fumbles and recovered 1, that's what he's got on Anderson.

Meanwhile Dexter Sr after that first month finished similar to Carter in sacks. Carter wasn't the must have, only one to draft DL/pass rusher. It's never that cut and dry.

There are really good WR's all over the first 2 rounds of the draft its a matter of finding the one that fits what your O does, and finding the one that will work to perfect his game.

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