I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6 via mobile

Post by AlexM on Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 11:03:18 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I've listened to the Bears videos yesterday and have been thinking about them. After rubbing my crystal balls, I think they will stay with Fields for next year and trade the first pick.

They might pick a QB but it won't be with a top pick. Of course, given my record of being right vs being wrong, I would go out and bet that they draft a QB with the first pick. But a few things kind of led me to believe that they were leaning towards keeping him. I am really interested to see how this plays out

Interesting. I, on the other hand, now think exactly the opposite.
I think there is no way they put 3rd OC in 4 years in front of Justin. Doesnt make any sense imo.
Pretty sure Poles and Flus concluded they going for QB this time. Draft him.

Maybe it even comes down to offers, 1st pick as well as Fields.

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:06:12 GMT -6

Post by brasilbear on Jan 11, 2024 13:06:12 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 12:49:30 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 11, 2024 12:41:12 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

OK, lets go with that scenario.

How would that work in the OC hiring process?

"We have a talented but flawed passer here for ya. Last OC & QB coach just got canned. He's entering his 4th and final contract year, we don't wanna pay him, the HC is on the playoffs-or-fired hotseat, and you have one season to get a 50% quantum leap improvement out of him.

Soooooooo.......do you want the job?"

Wait til you see what I am convinced of tomorrow

I still have both feet in the trade a 2nd for Jake Browning, trade down and let Fields and Browning battle it out. Totally irrational and could be the dumbest idea I've had since I thought Michael Haynes was going to be an elite DE.

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Post by bearsinhouston on Jan 11, 2024 13:09:23 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Jan 11, 2024 11:03:18 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I've listened to the Bears videos yesterday and have been thinking about them. After rubbing my crystal balls, I think they will stay with Fields for next year and trade the first pick.

They might pick a QB but it won't be with a top pick. Of course, given my record of being right vs being wrong, I would go out and bet that they draft a QB with the first pick. But a few things kind of led me to believe that they were leaning towards keeping him. I am really interested to see how this plays out

Interesting. I, on the other hand, now think exactly the opposite.
I think there is no way they put 3rd OC in 4 years in front of Justin. Doesnt make any sense imo.
Pretty sure Poles and Flus concluded they going for QB this time. Draft him.

Maybe it even comes down to offers, 1st pick as well as Fields.

Yeah. How do you know for sure? We won't know until it happens. They said good things about his progression. They said they felt they could win with him and they said he would have to blown away to go to a QB. All those things made me think he was leaning towards keeping him and going for another draft haul. But that is today and there is also the almost certain misdirection. So we will just have to wait and see. I will keep rubbing my crystal balls and let you know if anything changes

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:14:26 GMT -6 via mobile

Post by AlexM on Jan 11, 2024 13:14:26 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:09:23 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Interesting. I, on the other hand, now think exactly the opposite.
I think there is no way they put 3rd OC in 4 years in front of Justin. Doesnt make any sense imo.
Pretty sure Poles and Flus concluded they going for QB this time. Draft him.

Maybe it even comes down to offers, 1st pick as well as Fields.

Yeah. How do you know for sure? We won't know until it happens. They said good things about his progression. They said they felt they could win with him and they said he would have to blown away to go to a QB. All those things made me think he was leaning towards keeping him and going for another draft haul. But that is today and there is also the almost certain misdirection. So we will just have to wait and see. I will keep rubbing my crystal balls and let you know if anything changes

Ok. Think of me when you rubbing your balls!

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:15:25 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob likes this

Post by bearsinhouston on Jan 11, 2024 13:15:25 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:14:26 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Jan 11, 2024 13:09:23 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Yeah. How do you know for sure? We won't know until it happens. They said good things about his progression. They said they felt they could win with him and they said he would have to blown away to go to a QB. All those things made me think he was leaning towards keeping him and going for another draft haul. But that is today and there is also the almost certain misdirection. So we will just have to wait and see. I will keep rubbing my crystal balls and let you know if anything changes

Ok. Think of me when you rubbing your balls!

I'll consider it. But your name wasn't the first one I thought of

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Post by AlexM on Jan 11, 2024 13:20:09 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:15:25 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 11, 2024 13:14:26 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Ok. Think of me when you rubbing your balls!

I'll consider it. But your name wasn't the first one I thought of

Thats all im asking

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:39:25 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Jan 11, 2024 13:39:25 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 11:03:18 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I've listened to the Bears videos yesterday and have been thinking about them. After rubbing my crystal balls, I think they will stay with Fields for next year and trade the first pick.

They might pick a QB but it won't be with a top pick. Of course, given my record of being right vs being wrong, I would go out and bet that they draft a QB with the first pick. But a few things kind of led me to believe that they were leaning towards keeping him. I am really interested to see how this plays out

It will be fascinating to watch what happens. I figure there's advantages and disadvantages to both potential moves (keep or not keeping Fields). I have made up my mind that I will try to not overreact to whatever they do and just watch the outcome this season.

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 13:42:11 GMT -6 AlexM, shark86, and 1 more like this

Post by butkus3595 on Jan 11, 2024 13:42:11 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Jan 11, 2024 11:03:18 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

I've listened to the Bears videos yesterday and have been thinking about them. After rubbing my crystal balls, I think they will stay with Fields for next year and trade the first pick.

They might pick a QB but it won't be with a top pick. Of course, given my record of being right vs being wrong, I would go out and bet that they draft a QB with the first pick. But a few things kind of led me to believe that they were leaning towards keeping him. I am really interested to see how this plays out

Interesting. I, on the other hand, now think exactly the opposite.
I think there is no way they put 3rd OC in 4 years in front of Justin. Doesnt make any sense imo.
Pretty sure Poles and Flus concluded they going for QB this time. Draft him.

Maybe it even comes down to offers, 1st pick as well as Fields.

This, to me, is what it is going to come down to. What will present the most value to the team overall.

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Post by mpbears68 on Jan 11, 2024 14:30:16 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 13:09:23 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Jan 11, 2024 13:06:00 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Interesting. I, on the other hand, now think exactly the opposite.
I think there is no way they put 3rd OC in 4 years in front of Justin. Doesnt make any sense imo.
Pretty sure Poles and Flus concluded they going for QB this time. Draft him.

Maybe it even comes down to offers, 1st pick as well as Fields.

Yeah. How do you know for sure? We won't know until it happens. They said good things about his progression. They said they felt they could win with him and they said he would have to blown away to go to a QB. All those things made me think he was leaning towards keeping him and going for another draft haul. But that is today and there is also the almost certain misdirection. So we will just have to wait and see. I will keep rubbing my crystal balls and let you know if anything changes

Dude, they're gonna be saying positive things about him right up until the day he's traded. You know how this works. No GM is ever gonna talk down a player's trade value.

And the 2nd part summarizes the problem succinctly (CHGO said the exact same thing yesterday):
There's a big difference between winning with him and winning because of him. You can make an empirical case for the former; you can't for the latter.

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I'm going to take a wild ass guess at the QB situation Jan 11, 2024 15:13:31 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob and butkus3595 like this

Post by davidl on Jan 11, 2024 15:13:31 GMT -6

Jan 11, 2024 12:41:12 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Jan 11, 2024 12:34:11 GMT -6 davidl said:

Yesterday you were convinced they are drafting Williams.

I also think they will keep Fields for all the reasons I have been telling you.

OK, lets go with that scenario.

How would that work in the OC hiring process?

"We have a talented but flawed passer here for ya. Last OC & QB coach just got canned. He's entering his 4th and final contract year, we don't wanna pay him, the HC is on the playoffs-or-fired hotseat, and you have one season to get a 50% quantum leap improvement out of him.

Soooooooo.......do you want the job?"

That is easy. You sell him on my scenario. We are going to lead the NFL in rushing again. That’s 2800-3000 yards. Fields was throwing at a rate of 3400 this year even with the OC and QB coaches we just fired. We are drafting MHJ, so you will have two Pro Bowl WRs. That will get Fields up to 3500+ yards. Add it up, and we have over 6000+ total offense, which would rank the offense top-5 in the NFL.

You and motm are TOTALLY focused on QB passing yards. I don’t even want an OC with that orientation, and neither does Eberflus. As he says, “We’re going to run the ball.” Why wouldn’t we? Brax, Jenkins,Wright, and JABF’s center are going to be damn good blockers for Herbert, Fields, etc.

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