Young has played less games then JJ, his medical record had to have been trash. Remember the Bears were in on Young until DC wouldn't give the medical reports.
Sweat has played EVERY GAME EVERY YEAR. How often is it said, "number 1 ability is availability". Sweat meets that, Young cannot even play 10 games the last few years.
Yes but Sweat is 27 years old while Young is 24. When Bears are ready to compete in two years. That's 29 years vs 26 years. Not saying Sweat wasn't a bad deal. Just that Young was the one to go after.
JJ missed 23% and people are crying about the fact that we haven't sign him yet.
Age doesn't matter if you cannot stay on the field. And the injury, per reports is serious. There is a reason DC wasn't going to release the medical records. Odds are he'll never fully recover; and as I've stated often, injuries in the nfl, aren't about play long enough and you'll get injured, it's once you are injured you are likely to stay injured.
Not at all. I liked the Sweat deal until there was a better deal put on the table.
What if Sweat agreed to extend with Bears and Chase did not?
Chase came down to DC not releasing the medical reports. My guess is the Bears offered a 2nd for him, but wanted his medicals. I think that b/c unlike SF, the Bears are going to extend whoever they brought in. SF doesn't have the cap to keep Young.
What if Sweat agreed to extend with Bears and Chase did not?
Chase came down to DC not releasing the medical reports. My guess is the Bears offered a 2nd for him, but wanted him medicals. I think that b/c unlike SF, the Bears are going to extend whoever they brought in. SF doesn't have the cap to keep Young.
Young might be a rental only for them to make a SB run. His 5th year option was already declined.
Yes but Sweat is 27 years old while Young is 24. When Bears are ready to compete in two years. That's 29 years vs 26 years. Not saying Sweat wasn't a bad deal. Just that Young was the one to go after.
JJ missed 23% and people are crying about the fact that we haven't sign him yet.
Age doesn't matter if you cannot stay on the field. And the injury, per reports is serious. There is a reason DC wasn't going to release the medical records. Odds are he'll never fully recover; and as I've stated often, injuries in the nfl, aren't about play long enough and you'll get injured, it's once you are injured you are likely to stay injured.
I read CY had a multi-ligament tear in his knee. It was an ACL with (likely) a severe MCL tear as well. He took a year+ to get back on the field and another 8 months to log some sacks.
I can understand why Poles didn't want to risk it.
Age doesn't matter if you cannot stay on the field. And the injury, per reports is serious. There is a reason DC wasn't going to release the medical records. Odds are he'll never fully recover; and as I've stated often, injuries in the nfl, aren't about play long enough and you'll get injured, it's once you are injured you are likely to stay injured.
I read CY had a multi-ligament tear in his knee. It was an ACL with (likely) a severe MCL tear as well. He took a year+ to get back on the field and another 8 months to log some sacks.
I can understand why Poles didn't want to risk it.
They had to take a piece out of one area to fix another. Listen it can work, it worked w/ARob for the Bears. But it's a giant risk, and w/the team in serious need of a pass rusher you cannot risk a guy that might not be on the field, even if when he is he's the better of the 2.
Notice how Young went to a team looking for his play this year, not 2-3-4 years down the line. My guess he'll have a couple Ngokoue 1 yr deals until teams feel he's shown he can play a full season.
Post by shortfacedbear on Oct 31, 2023 16:58:32 GMT -6
I think getting Sweat is beating the FA to the punch of perhaps a bidding war. Bears can still trade down or trade JJ to recoup draft capital. Sweat can also gel with the team (no matter what coach we have),and we can see what more we need as we watch his effect on the team.
Chase came down to DC not releasing the medical reports. My guess is the Bears offered a 2nd for him, but wanted him medicals. I think that b/c unlike SF, the Bears are going to extend whoever they brought in. SF doesn't have the cap to keep Young.
Young might be a rental only for them to make a SB run. His 5th year option was already declined.
They have, according to OTC, 1.4 mil next year in cap space, and only 45 under contract next year. 2025 they have 45mil but only 36 under contract. So unless they completely from and end load something for Young, they got nothing to keep him.
I heard on the radio someone said they were actually 10mil over this year, but I don't see that.
I think getting Sweat is beating the FA to the punch of perhaps a bidding war. Bears can still trade down or trade JJ to recoup draft capital. Sweat can also gel with the team (no matter what coach we have),and we can see what more we need as we watch his effect on the team.
Forget who 670 was talking to, but they said they cannot see the Bears keeping both high first round picks b/c the team is so bereft of talent. So my guess is they either keep Fields one more year, possible and trade the higher pick; or they go qb letting Fields go and trade the 2nd first round pick.
They cannot afford to keep both. Either after SNF, or on Monday one of the national analysts that was at the game said of the Bears "They are not a qb away, they are 10 players from being 10 players away"
You cannot fix that w/2 high picks. You can trade one of those picks for a kings ransom and in the next 2 years fix that though.
I think getting Sweat is beating the FA to the punch of perhaps a bidding war. Bears can still trade down or trade JJ to recoup draft capital. Sweat can also gel with the team (no matter what coach we have),and we can see what more we need as we watch his effect on the team.
The other factor is JF1. Hopefully he can show something last 8 weeks. QBs are so coveted -- you could get a 2nd for him if he shows something.
Minnesota is so desperate they just gave a 5th for Dobbs. I can tell you from personal observation Dobbs has zero chance to be an NFL starter.
Young "developed bad habits like deviating from play call to make splash plays"
DC wanted to keep Sweat, but saw the Bears trade as to valuable, and saw the trading of Young as addition by subtraction.
But ya we should have went after Young. DC didn't want to keep him; not b/c of cap but b/c they didn't want him similar to Pitt selling off Claypool. Poles avoided a huge mistake.