You're literally providing no evidence for your argument. Poles job is to provide talent. He's done that. This team has MORE TALENT than last years team. You can try to argue they don't, but there is no possible way you could actually prove that.
Their record says otherwise, as well as their stats. The O is scoring less points and the Def is the worst in the league in just about every category. The best you can say, is that on paper this team has more talent, but if it's not showing it on the field, then the stuff on paper can be put in the office bin b/c none of that matters.
Problem is so much of the talent is hurt, seems to have been since summer. Bigger question is who is the teams strength and conditioning coach, and has he done something that has created a wide spread issue. Hard to know what this team could be when every DB and a good portion of the OL is injured.
Regardless, the team is what the record says, equal to worse then last years.
It certainly is worse. But who's job is it to get talent to perform on the field?
Their record says otherwise, as well as their stats. The O is scoring less points and the Def is the worst in the league in just about every category. The best you can say, is that on paper this team has more talent, but if it's not showing it on the field, then the stuff on paper can be put in the office bin b/c none of that matters.
Problem is so much of the talent is hurt, seems to have been since summer. Bigger question is who is the teams strength and conditioning coach, and has he done something that has created a wide spread issue. Hard to know what this team could be when every DB and a good portion of the OL is injured.
Regardless, the team is what the record says, equal to worse then last years.
It certainly is worse. But who's job is it to get talent to perform on the field?
If you cut/trade so many players as Poles did, there was very little talent left on this team before he started cashing in on his $100M plus #1 draft pick. From that low starting point, you, I, or an untrained chimpanzee could have added incremental talent with all that resource available. That is no achievement.
Second point (to repeat): Only EXCEPTIONALLY talented players (like Butkus and Sayers) can excel on a team populated by mediocre or less supporting teammates surrounding them. If a player had that benefit while playing on team “A” but lost it in coming to Bears in 2023, we can anticipate their ability to perform to their previous level to decline. The decline is exacerbated by poor coaching. That is what we see in all of Poles most expensive acquisitions.
Their record says otherwise, as well as their stats. The O is scoring less points and the Def is the worst in the league in just about every category. The best you can say, is that on paper this team has more talent, but if it's not showing it on the field, then the stuff on paper can be put in the office bin b/c none of that matters.
Problem is so much of the talent is hurt, seems to have been since summer. Bigger question is who is the teams strength and conditioning coach, and has he done something that has created a wide spread issue. Hard to know what this team could be when every DB and a good portion of the OL is injured.
Regardless, the team is what the record says, equal to worse then last years.
It certainly is worse. But who's job is it to get talent to perform on the field?
The same people who's job it was last year; when they performed equal to better.
Don't make me defend these coaches by acting like most the talent on this roster isn't also mostly trash and deserving to be out of the door also.
It certainly is worse. But who's job is it to get talent to perform on the field?
If you cut/trade so many players as Poles did, there was very little talent left on this team before he started cashing in on his $100M plus #1 draft pick. From that low starting point, you, I, or an untrained chimpanzee could have added incremental talent with all that resource available. That is no achievement.
Second point (to repeat): Only EXCEPTIONALLY talented players (like Butkus and Sayers) can excel on a team populated by mediocre or less supporting teammates surrounding them. If a player had that benefit while playing on team “A” but lost it in coming to Bears in 2023, we can anticipate their ability to perform to their previous level to decline. The decline is exacerbated by poor coaching. That is what we see in all of Poles most expensive acquisitions.
Stop. You answered the question in the first paragraph. Last years team had less talent. Period. End of story. Done. You furthered my point in the second paragraph with your "poor coaching" comment. Its over.
It certainly is worse. But who's job is it to get talent to perform on the field?
The same people who's job it was last year; when they performed equal to better.
Don't make me defend these coaches by acting like most the talent on this roster isn't also mostly trash and deserving to be out of the door also.
But the bottom line is this team has better talent, and its not performing. Thats on them.
If you guys don't follow Ted Nguyen on twitter, I suggest you do. He's a great follow who provides a ton of info. Tonight he broke down all the formations backfield actions, and motion Miami used to run Crack Toss against Denver and they were killing them with it. They then used that later in the game to set up Split Zone Toss and you can literally see the defenders bite hard to try and stop Crack Toss. This is the kind of coaching I'm talking about!!! Where is the creativity? How are they putting these guys in a position to succeed? Every one and their mother knows what this offense is going to run and its as bland and dry as a slice of white bread.
If you cut/trade so many players as Poles did, there was very little talent left on this team before he started cashing in on his $100M plus #1 draft pick. From that low starting point, you, I, or an untrained chimpanzee could have added incremental talent with all that resource available. That is no achievement.
Second point (to repeat): Only EXCEPTIONALLY talented players (like Butkus and Sayers) can excel on a team populated by mediocre or less supporting teammates surrounding them. If a player had that benefit while playing on team “A” but lost it in coming to Bears in 2023, we can anticipate their ability to perform to their previous level to decline. The decline is exacerbated by poor coaching. That is what we see in all of Poles most expensive acquisitions.
Stop. You answered the question in the first paragraph. Last years team had less talent. Period. End of story. Done. You furthered my point in the second paragraph with your "poor coaching" comment. Its over.
I thought my reference to an untrained chimpanzee being able to add talent to a team that has been deliberately decimated of talent by cuts/trades with the ensuing $100M and #1 itself deserves zero accolades from Bears fans, much less a justification for not firing Poles for the meager talent increase added despite the largest cap windfall in NFL history + the #1 pick. Poles is 70% responsible for this mess, and the coaches had a hand in making it even worse.
You cherry-picked my second paragraph, as there is more than poor coaching to account for the declining performance of the most expensive Poles recruits.
Every one and their mother knows what this offense is going to run and its as bland and dry as a slice of white bread.
That's what it looks like to me. That's what opposing defensive players have said too. It is 100% predictable what the Bears are going to run on plays. You can't play football at the NFL level with that kind of offense. I've watched the professionals (guys who actually have played the game) break down the film - and to a man they have said it is a poor offense scheme that is being run here. That is coaching. Coaching at it's worst. That is not using your talent well... I have heard these people comment over and over again about how Fields is not being used properly. That is coaching. Coaching at its worst. These comments are not from meatball fans like us, but rather from professionals who have played the game. I trust that they are giving us an accurate assessment of a failed coaching staff.
The same people who's job it was last year; when they performed equal to better.
Don't make me defend these coaches by acting like most the talent on this roster isn't also mostly trash and deserving to be out of the door also.
But the bottom line is this team has better talent, and its not performing. Thats on them.
If you guys don't follow Ted Nguyen on twitter, I suggest you do. He's a great follow who provides a ton of info. Tonight he broke down all the formations backfield actions, and motion Miami used to run Crack Toss against Denver and they were killing them with it. They then used that later in the game to set up Split Zone Toss and you can literally see the defenders bite hard to try and stop Crack Toss. This is the kind of coaching I'm talking about!!! Where is the creativity? How are they putting these guys in a position to succeed? Every one and their mother knows what this offense is going to run and its as bland and dry as a slice of white bread.
Well is that on coaching or is that on the players that cannot understand what the silent count is and how to line up on the play called or how to run the correct route?? Again this roster is only better on paper, there is nothing showing they are better on the field. And again, these coaches were all here last year getting the most out of an, on paper, worse roster.
OL is full of backups, and the receivers outside of Moore are all mid. Kmet, Claypool and Mooney are not difference makers and it shows up on tape every week. Chase D and Tim Jenkins, talked about the same stuff, poor play design, but also zero separation constantly and when Fields did give them a shot on 50-50 balls, they dropped them.
The entire O is lacking talent, and not sure that they are capable of running something more complex given the first part of my reply. These coaches are all deserving of being shit canned, but the roster they were given is hot garbage or injured.
Stop. You answered the question in the first paragraph. Last years team had less talent. Period. End of story. Done. You furthered my point in the second paragraph with your "poor coaching" comment. Its over.
I thought my reference to an untrained chimpanzee being able to add talent to a team that has been deliberately decimated of talent by cuts/trades with the ensuing $100M and #1 itself deserves zero accolades from Bears fans, much less a justification for not firing Poles for the meager talent increase added despite the largest cap windfall in NFL history + the #1 pick. Poles is 70% responsible for this mess, and the coaches had a hand in making it even worse.
You cherry-picked my second paragraph, as there is more than poor coaching to account for the declining performance of the most expensive Poles recruits.
Last years team had less talent. Period. End of story. Done. Finito. Nothing more to see here.