PFF Evaluates Matt Barkley...............

Well you play "make believe" GM your way and I'll play it mine.  Good luck with drafting then.  Maybe you'll get a good one and not another J'Marcus Russell or Vince Young or  Blake Bortles.  Your previous picks haven't turned out too good ya' know.

Me, I'll pay more for proven talent if and when I can see it.  There are no absolutes if the value I'm looking for is there.  To me the price of anything is based on it's value alone.  The dollar amount means nothing if it brings me the profit I expect.

I think you're waaay overvaluing Jimmy. He's played decent, not great, and he definitely hasn't done anything to prove he's worth giving up a first rounder and then some. Brady is great we all know this however it seems that in the last 7 years or so any QB who's filled in for Brady had done well but it seems to be a product of the system because once they leave NE they are very sub-par.

How can I over value anything unless I know the final price?  If you and Ric are content to accept some reporters comments that the asking price is 2 #1s + well go ahead and accept it.  That's not how I work.  I don't know the bottom line yet.

If that's what NE demands and it's firm then they're telling the market that he's really not for sale because I don't see anyone paying that asking price.  If that's the case and they actually do want to make a trade then they'd need to get more realistic and many times that won't happen until the draft begins and a player they covet is sitting there to be had with the pick you've offered.  That's where the rubber meets the road.

Jusnixx in order to debate Ric and counter some of this thinking I need to get pretty basic about my concepts or my point doesn't get made.  Ric likes to deal in perceptions while I deal in facts.  It's just the way we're each built.  Perception is simply "he's not worth two #1s".  Fact is "if he turns this offense around and we become a consistent winner and SB prospect he sure as hell is".  Now it's up to Pace and his guys to determine whether or not that really is possible and what's the most they'd pay for it.

If you ask fans who they think is better, Cutler or Garoppolo, what answer do you think you'd get?  We traded two 1sts plus a backup QB for Cutler whose skilled but has struggled to win as often as most feel he should.  If Garoppolo is better and wins more often then why isn't he worth two 1sts too?  Can you see how the lack of logic of a blanket statement like Garoppolo isn't worth two #1s kind of evades me?  We've already paid that much for one who didn't work out so why would we not pay that much again for one who might work out far better?  It's up to the Bears to make that determination is all.

And NE isn't letting him go w/out it being 2 1sts + more picks(IE they don't want to trade him). 

It's a complete moot point. If Pace makes that trade for Jimmy G he's lost his flipping mind.