Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 9:13:47 GMT -6 riczaj01 and brasilbear like this

Post by hawkeye21 on Dec 7, 2016 9:13:47 GMT -6

Dec 7, 2016 7:23:03 GMT -6 germansbombedph said:

we lost Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams in the past years because of it... now we will lose out on the next.
I understand that Players and coaches aren't playing to lose, but don't tell me it's good for the Franchise that we won that game. Tanking is something GMs do to get that more valuable draft Position.

That is incorrect.

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6

Dec 7, 2016 7:23:03 GMT -6 germansbombedph said:

we lost Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams in the past years because of it... now we will lose out on the next.
I understand that Players and coaches aren't playing to lose, but don't tell me it's good for the Franchise that we won that game. Tanking is something GMs do to get that more valuable draft Position.

Tanking isn't done in the NFL, maybe in the NBA and MLB, but not in the NFL, you tank and you'll get hurt or lose your job; possibly both.

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6

Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Tanking isn't done in the NFL, maybe in the NBA and MLB, but not in the NFL, you tank and you'll get hurt or lose your job; possibly both.

Didn't Indy do it a few years ago? Suck for Luck?

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 17:04:35 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear likes this

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Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Tanking isn't done in the NFL, maybe in the NBA and MLB, but not in the NFL, you tank and you'll get hurt or lose your job; possibly both.

Didn't Indy do it a few years ago? Suck for Luck?

No. They had a bad season because they were a bad team. The fans and media just called it that because they wanted to get Luck.

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 17:16:14 GMT -6 riczaj01 and hawkeye21 like this

Post by brasilbear on Dec 7, 2016 17:16:14 GMT -6

Dec 7, 2016 17:04:35 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Didn't Indy do it a few years ago? Suck for Luck?

No. They had a bad season because they were a bad team. The fans and media just called it that because they wanted to get Luck.

You can find multiple articles with quotes from individual players saying exactly what many of us are saying here. Harrison or Wayne was quoted as saying something like "We have bonuses tied to production and no one is guaranteed anything next year, why would we try to lose?"

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 7, 2016 18:13:38 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear likes this

Post by riczaj01 on Dec 7, 2016 18:13:38 GMT -6

Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6 GrizzlyBear said:

Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Tanking isn't done in the NFL, maybe in the NBA and MLB, but not in the NFL, you tank and you'll get hurt or lose your job; possibly both.

Didn't Indy do it a few years ago? Suck for Luck?

No. Manning broke his neck. They didn't tank on purpose, they had Painter, probably the worst Prudue QB to come out in the last 30 years, as their backup, and that wasn't w/the intention of losing. They just had never worried about qb b/c of Manning.

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 8, 2016 0:43:10 GMT -6

Post by germansbombedph on Dec 8, 2016 0:43:10 GMT -6

Players and Coaches never Tank, their Jobs are on the line. GMs do tank. If you have that Kind of Job Security you can tank to get that good Draft pick. Imagine if you are on the verge of getting fired and you tell them you will get them the next great QB?

GMs tank, Players and Coach won't.

It happens

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat Dec 8, 2016 8:02:20 GMT -6

Post by hawkeye21 on Dec 8, 2016 8:02:20 GMT -6

I don't know how anyone can actually believe that NFL players or coaches would lose on purpose in order to get a higher draft pick. There are just too many things on the line for a player or coach to lose on purpose. Why would a player care what draft pick they have next year? All he cares about is staying healthy and making the roster the next year. No NFL player is safe and could be dealt to another team at any time so why would they care?

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Greg Gabrial: Enough With The ‘Bears Lost By Winning’ Narrat

Post by hawkeye21 on Dec 7, 2016 9:13:47 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Dec 7, 2016 16:25:51 GMT -6

Post by GrizzlyBear on Dec 7, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -6

Post by hawkeye21 on Dec 7, 2016 17:04:35 GMT -6

Post by brasilbear on Dec 7, 2016 17:16:14 GMT -6

Post by riczaj01 on Dec 7, 2016 18:13:38 GMT -6

Post by germansbombedph on Dec 8, 2016 0:43:10 GMT -6

Post by hawkeye21 on Dec 8, 2016 8:02:20 GMT -6