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Mar 10, 2023 17:46:28 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

The gloom and doom comments at windycity are making me giggle. Apparently its not a haul, Moore isn't a real #1, and Poles got fleeced. Some people are only happy when they can grump apparently.

Now am I the only one hoping Carter falls to 9?

There's gonna be those people no matter what.

Poles got a legit #1WR who's young, ascending, anf on reasonable contract w/o having to give up a draft pick or compromise on crazy + high price and/or unavailable like OBJ or DHop or Keenan Allen.

This is a great trade so just enjoy it.

Bears now sign OT and DT in FA and draft their edge at #9.

I LOVE Ryan Poles right now.

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Thank you, Ryan, for not falling for the trap of signing/trading for players who are 30+ yo and past their best football. I'll take mid-20s guys over that every single time.

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Post by butkus3595 on Mar 10, 2023 17:56:40 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 16:57:34 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Mar 10, 2023 16:51:01 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Freakin BALLER move by Poles

Now get your edge at #9.

Wilson or Van Ness

Or.....do you go JSN at #9 and completely redo the WR room.

Just asking. I'd be happy with an edge at 9.

EDIT: I actually think #9 is too high for JSN. Just throwing things out.

I actually wouldn't mind that because edge is so deep and you can double dip in round 2 on it. And 9 isn't too high for JSN, he's a dude!

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Post by davidl on Mar 10, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 17:05:22 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

PS: Chris Ballard just lost his job.

I see rumor that Texans were already planning to get Jimmy G in FA and trade down #2, possibly to Colts. So if Panthers take Young, Ballard could still save his job if Stroud was their guy all along. Or maybe Irsay just was unwilling to give up a player (Pittman/Buckner) as part of the deal. Too soon to say what the Colts are doing.

I would like Poles to trade some of this stuff he got from the Panthers to get in position to draft JSN, unless he drafts a slot receiver in second round. In my opinion, Mooney playing primarily in the slot is out of position. He should be playing primarily wideout. Claypool can play backup for Moore.

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Post by butkus3595 on Mar 10, 2023 18:03:30 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 17:07:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Mar 10, 2023 16:57:34 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Or.....do you go JSN at #9 and completely redo the WR room.

Just asking. I'd be happy with an edge at 9.

I would love that move, but I doubt it, this feels like the investment in WR's is done, at least for potential day 1 starters. DJ Moore 1, Mooney/Chase (another traded for player). Sadly it's a room w/a 1 and two 3's instead of a 1, 2 and 3, but Poles invested to heavily in Chase to not have him on the field. Maybe he finds a steal in FA or 3rd day of the draft that can play their way into starting; but it won't be intentional.

DT or Edge in the first for now; at least until we see what happens w/FA.

3 picks in the first 2 rounds is a big deal, then 2 firsts next year and 2 2nds the year after that. Poles doing right now what I screamed for Pace to do for 5 years, use the draft as a lottery, buy as many tickets as you can.

Two 3's?

Really?

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Post by brasilbear on Mar 10, 2023 18:11:15 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 17:55:49 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Mar 10, 2023 17:46:28 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

The gloom and doom comments at windycity are making me giggle. Apparently its not a haul, Moore isn't a real #1, and Poles got fleeced. Some people are only happy when they can grump apparently.

Now am I the only one hoping Carter falls to 9?

There's gonna be those people no matter what.

Poles got a legit #1WR who's young, ascending, anf on reasonable contract w/o having to give up a draft pick or compromise on crazy + high price and/or unavailable like OBJ or DHop or Keenan Allen.

This is a great trade so just enjoy it.

Bears now sign OT and DT in FA and draft their edge at #9.

I LOVE Ryan Poles right now.

Masterful

Thank you, Ryan, for not falling for the trap of signing/trading for players who are 30+ yo and past their best football. I'll take mid-20s guys over that every single time.

My favorite comment was the guy who complained that Poles traded Stroud for DJMoore and you never trade an elite QB for a WR, especially not a WR who isn't a true #1. And now they don't have a shot at an elite player and won't draft until 44 picks later, when all the second tier players will be gone.

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Post by butkus3595 on Mar 10, 2023 18:11:32 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -6 davidl said:

Mar 10, 2023 17:05:22 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

PS: Chris Ballard just lost his job.

I see rumor that Texans were already planning to get Jimmy G in FA and trade down #2, possibly to Colts. So if Panthers take Young, Ballard could still save his job if Stroud was their guy all along. Or maybe Irsay just was unwilling to give up a player (Pittman/Buckner) as part of the deal. Too soon to say what the Colts are doing.

I would like Poles to trade some of this stuff he got from the Panthers to get in position to draft JSN, unless he drafts a slot receiver in second round. In my opinion, Mooney playing primarily in the slot is out of position. He should be playing primarily wideout. Claypool can play backup for Moore.

He's already in position to draft JSN...and I won't address your opinion on Mooney cause we've covered that.

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butkus3595 Hall of Famer Posts: 6,799 Likes: 8,874	Trade with Panthers being reported Mar 10, 2023 18:13:26 GMT -6 mpbears68 likes this Post by butkus3595 on Mar 10, 2023 18:13:26 GMT -6 KING RYAN MOTHERFUCKING POLES!!!! I absolutely LOVE this deal! Fields finally gets a #1...offense just got a HUGE upgrade! Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Post by mpbears68 on Mar 10, 2023 18:13:56 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -6 davidl said:

Mar 10, 2023 17:05:22 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

PS: Chris Ballard just lost his job.

I see rumor that Texans were already planning to get Jimmy G in FA and trade down #2, possibly to Colts. So if Panthers take Young, Ballard could still save his job if Stroud was their guy all along. Or maybe Irsay just was unwilling to give up a player (Pittman/Buckner) as part of the deal. Too soon to say what the Colts are doing.

I would like Poles to trade some of this stuff he got from the Panthers to get in position to draft JSN, unless he drafts a slot receiver in second round. In my opinion, Mooney playing primarily in the slot is out of position. He should be playing primarily wideout. Claypool can play backup for Moore.

Houston isn't trading #2 to their division rival. No freakin' way

Ballard is toast unless one of the top-2 takes Levis or Richardson. Even that assumes the Cards won't trade #3. He doesn't get his "day 1 starter" otherwise. He's toast like Ryan Pace was...doomed to pick his successor's QB. He's now the guy leaving the dance without a girl and going home alone. Should have offered more, Chris!

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Screw drafting JSN. That's off the table now. You sign OL and DT in FA and draft Edge in round 1. Bears can add another WR in rds 3-5.

Moore -- Mooney -- Claypool is a good WR group plus Kmet TE. I have zero interest in any FA WR or old man trade guy at this point.

Stock the lines in FA and head to the draft. Great work, Ryan! You're already light years better than Pace.

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motm All-Pro Posts: 4,274 Likes: 2,007	Trade with Panthers being reported Mar 10, 2023 18:17:31 GMT -6 Post by motm on Mar 10, 2023 18:17:31 GMT -6 I was hoping to stay in the top 5 but adding DJ Moore is nice. We got our #1 WR on a pretty cheap deal. So next is DE and OT. We have to focus on these. Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Post by mpbears68 on Mar 10, 2023 18:17:57 GMT -6

Mar 10, 2023 18:03:30 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Mar 10, 2023 17:07:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

I would love that move, but I doubt it, this feels like the investment in WR's is done, at least for potential day 1 starters. DJ Moore 1, Mooney/Chase (another traded for player). Sadly it's a room w/a 1 and two 3's instead of a 1, 2 and 3, but Poles invested to heavily in Chase to not have him on the field. Maybe he finds a steal in FA or 3rd day of the draft that can play their way into starting; but it won't be intentional.

DT or Edge in the first for now; at least until we see what happens w/FA.

3 picks in the first 2 rounds is a big deal, then 2 firsts next year and 2 2nds the year after that. Poles doing right now what I screamed for Pace to do for 5 years, use the draft as a lottery, buy as many tickets as you can.

Two 3's?

Really?

Ric, sorry man but you're wrong. That's a very solid WR group. You have a #1 plus 2 #2/3s plus whatever you pick up in the draft.

If you're not happy with this news, then you never will be. This is a great deal, particularly since WR is weak at the top of this draft.

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