"When it mattered most, the Bears were too young, too inexperienced, too injured and relying too much on overachieving undrafted free agents and late-round draft picks"
This is a perfect description of our 2016 season.
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
"When it mattered most, the Bears were too young, too inexperienced, too injured and relying too much on overachieving undrafted free agents and late-round draft picks"
This is a perfect description of our 2016 season.
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
I have repeatedly said I wanted the staff to play the younger guys as opposed to constantly get yet another older FA stopgap player who has hopefully 2 - 3 years left in the tank. And I said that it would be painful to watch.
It is painful to watch. Really painful.
The upside of this will come late this year and next year. We will have a solid young veteran defensive backfield. In spite of his obvious blunders yesterday, Jacoby Glenn has shown some nice flashes yesterday and previously when he has played. Look at how Bryce Callahan played yesterday. Callahan had some real choice mistakes last year. But he would be nowhere near the player he is now if he did not play a lot last year.
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
I have repeatedly said I wanted the staff to play the younger guys as opposed to constantly get yet another older FA stopgap player who has hopefully 2 - 3 years left in the tank. And I said that it would be painful to watch.
It is painful to watch. Really painful.
The upside of this will come late this year and next year. We will have a solid young veteran defensive backfield. In spite of his obvious blunders yesterday, Jacoby Glenn has shown some nice flashes yesterday and previously when he has played. Look at how Bryce Callahan played yesterday. Callahan had some real choice mistakes last year. But he woudl be nowhere near the player he is now if he did not play a lot last year.
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
I have repeatedly said I wanted the staff to play the younger guys as opposed to constantly get yet another older FA stopgap player who has hopefully 2 - 3 years left in the tank. And I said that it would be painful to watch.
It is painful to watch. Really painful.
The upside of this will come late this year and next year. We will have a solid young veteran defensive backfield. In spite of his obvious blunders yesterday, Jacoby Glenn has shown some nice flashes yesterday and previously when he has played. Look at how Bryce Callahan played yesterday. Callahan had some real choice mistakes last year. But he would be nowhere near the player he is now if he did not play a lot last year.
I totally agree Chuck. Although you cant teach quality, experience is irreplacable
Post by tragicslip on Oct 10, 2016 14:24:36 GMT -6
i don't think it's painful and am more distressed when i see those guys get asked to do things they aren't suited to: Hoyer can't make the throw to an open Jeffery for the win. Meredith is supposed to come up with the ball in traffic.
if you know Floyd doesn't have strength to deal with lineman, design plays to keep him uncovered so he can pursue the ball. if you know White can take the top off the D but sucks at route running use him to his strengths. YES he should learn more of the route tree but he was drafted for his speed. play call to his strengths.
the only thing more frustrating than fans anointing backups the second coming is a staff to lazy or inept to scheme with player strengths in mind.
"When it mattered most, the Bears were too young, too inexperienced, too injured and relying too much on overachieving undrafted free agents and late-round draft picks"
This is a perfect description of our 2016 season.
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
Some of it is that but it's also oversimplifying the problems on both sides of the ball. The penalties on Long, Massie, and Paulsen that halted drives short of the end zone or cost us precious time in catch up mode were not made by rookies. In fact both Massie and Paulsen seem to be quite good at making them negating the idea that experienced vets are any better than raw rookies and possibly worse because they have no excuse and no upside.
We also can't blame a vet backup QB of 47 games failing to read a defense well and ignore his first read who was wide open for a winning TD on rookie mistakes. Nor can we blame a vet PK for missing twice on the rookies when that miss made a huge difference in our strategy on that last drive. Without that miss a FG ties the game and we don't have to go for six on 4th down. Of course that assumes Barth wouldn't have missed yet another FG of 40 yards plus.
I'm not ranting. I'm actually very calm now because I feel like I have far better answers than any we've been given at least by Fox. He has no plan period or at least not one that could be described as anything different than his injury reports. So I'm just calling it John Fox's "Day by Day Guide to Winning Football". That's all it really is you know. The guy doesn't even have the balls to make a definitive statement regarding his decision on who plays QB once Cutler is healthy. This is a guy with his back against the wall who knows it and won't be pinned down to anything. Only losers coach like that sorry.
So yeah, it's gonna be painful and it will stay that way until Fox is gone. An 8-8 season would have shown little progress but a season that's beginning to look like half that many wins is being hopeful is a severe regression. The 8-8 means you get one more shot but a 4-12 should get you fired. If it doesn't once again it shows a lack of balls on the part of Bears management and ownership to swallow a bitter pill and begin again to start delivering on their promises. I've had enough of this rebuilding that isn't.
I see 1-7 at the bye as a very real possibility. What do you see?
We can scream about firing people, argue about Hoyer/Cutler, and rant like lunatics about the other players. But this is our problem right now. It isn't going to get fixed mid-season. It will probably be a painful season for the fans to watch.
Some of it is that but it's also oversimplifying the problems on both sides of the ball. The penalties on Long, Massie, and Paulsen that halted drives short of the end zone or cost us precious time in catch up mode were not made by rookies. In fact both Massie and Paulsen seem to be quite good at making them negating the idea that experienced vets are any better than raw rookies and possibly worse because they have no excuse and no upside.
We also can't blame a vet backup QB of 47 games failing to read a defense well and ignore his first read who was wide open for a winning TD on rookie mistakes. Nor can we blame a vet PK for missing twice on the rookies when that miss made a huge difference in our strategy on that last drive. Without that miss a FG ties the game and we don't have to go for six on 4th down. Of course that assumes Barth wouldn't have missed yet another FG of 40 yards plus.
I'm not ranting. I'm actually very calm now because I feel like I have far better answers than any we've been given at least by Fox. He has no plan period or at least not one that could be described as anything different than his injury reports. So I'm just calling it John Fox's "Day by Day Guide to Winning Football". That's all it really is you know. The guy doesn't even have the balls to make a definitive statement regarding his decision on who plays QB once Cutler is healthy. This is a guy with his back against the wall who knows it and won't be pinned down to anything. Only losers coach like that sorry.
So yeah, it's gonna be painful and it will stay that way until Fox is gone. An 8-8 season would have shown little progress but a season that's beginning to look like half that many wins is being hopeful is a severe regression. The 8-8 means you get one more shot but a 4-12 should get you fired. If it doesn't once again it shows a lack of balls on the part of Bears management and ownership to swallow a bitter pill and begin again to start delivering on their promises. I've had enough of this rebuilding that isn't.
I see 1-7 at the bye as a very real possibility. What do you see?
Pace has made mistakes. So has Fox. I'm still hoping these two can get it turned around after another off-season.
Some of it is that but it's also oversimplifying the problems on both sides of the ball. The penalties on Long, Massie, and Paulsen that halted drives short of the end zone or cost us precious time in catch up mode were not made by rookies. In fact both Massie and Paulsen seem to be quite good at making them negating the idea that experienced vets are any better than raw rookies and possibly worse because they have no excuse and no upside.
We also can't blame a vet backup QB of 47 games failing to read a defense well and ignore his first read who was wide open for a winning TD on rookie mistakes. Nor can we blame a vet PK for missing twice on the rookies when that miss made a huge difference in our strategy on that last drive. Without that miss a FG ties the game and we don't have to go for six on 4th down. Of course that assumes Barth wouldn't have missed yet another FG of 40 yards plus.
I'm not ranting. I'm actually very calm now because I feel like I have far better answers than any we've been given at least by Fox. He has no plan period or at least not one that could be described as anything different than his injury reports. So I'm just calling it John Fox's "Day by Day Guide to Winning Football". That's all it really is you know. The guy doesn't even have the balls to make a definitive statement regarding his decision on who plays QB once Cutler is healthy. This is a guy with his back against the wall who knows it and won't be pinned down to anything. Only losers coach like that sorry.
So yeah, it's gonna be painful and it will stay that way until Fox is gone. An 8-8 season would have shown little progress but a season that's beginning to look like half that many wins is being hopeful is a severe regression. The 8-8 means you get one more shot but a 4-12 should get you fired. If it doesn't once again it shows a lack of balls on the part of Bears management and ownership to swallow a bitter pill and begin again to start delivering on their promises. I've had enough of this rebuilding that isn't.
I see 1-7 at the bye as a very real possibility. What do you see?
Pace has made mistakes. So has Fox. I'm still hoping these two can get it turned around after another off-season.
I hope so as well.. I like to point out something:
Halas made mistakes Finks made mistakes Vainisi made mistake
It was a good play called by the Colts ... and 85% of the DB's in the league would have been burned on that play , so c'est la vie . Maybe ( MAYBE ) there are a few who could have defended that play easily , and maybe he'll be better next time - but I ain't gonna knock the dude for it . He's 'new' to the highest level of fb on Earth ( like ALL of our young guys ) and he's gonna be 'meh' until he gets solid . The icecubes ain't ready 2hrs after you put the tray in the freezer .
