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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 10:24:26 GMT -6 JABF and shark86 like this

Post by mpbears68 on Sept 20, 2016 10:24:26 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 10:14:47 GMT -6 JABF said:

Sept 20, 2016 10:06:49 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

We may have seen his last game as a Bear. At best, he plays a few more garbage games late in the season and then is gone this spring. Trade him for whatever you can get and move on. I'm not blaming Jay entirely for last night or his disappointing tenure in Chicago (plenty of fault all around) but he reverted yesterday to his pre-Gase behaviors so there's no "new Jay" to wait for.

At this point, I'd be tempted to trade for Garrapolo rather than draft someone since I have little confidence in Pace's ability to judge top-10 talent based on what we have seen from White and Floyd.

If Pace wants to save his GM-ship (not looking too good at this point), he's gonna have to get a young talented QB on this team that give us some hope going forward. Right now there's little to be hopeful for.

QB and offensive line. Massie in particular doesn't look like an NFL-level player to me. I'm sure someone will post PFF grades saying I'm wrong, but he looked sooooo bad last night, and it wasn't just slowness. He repeatedly got bull rushed and looked like a bug hitting a windshield as he was driven back.

Massie has been bad I agree and I don't remember him being THAT BAD in Arizona last year. The thing is--the OL as a whole has been terrible. Even in run blocking! And this is an OL that should be run blocking studs and a group that has some solid real talent.

We can't run and we can't pass block and that's inexcusable even with Massie being a weak link. That's on Fox and Loggains. The massive underperformance of the OL seems like the foundational reason why the offense as a whole is sucking. We have scored only 7 points and given up at least 5 sacks in the last 6 quarters. It's been truly pathetic.

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Sept 20, 2016 8:55:31 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Personally, I think his days as a Bear QB is about over.

Agreed. And I think you all will look back at this as a blessing in disguise.

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 11:19:42 GMT -6

Post by MartianBearsFan on Sept 20, 2016 11:19:42 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 11:17:39 GMT -6 ptisme said:

Sept 20, 2016 8:55:31 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Personally, I think his days as a Bear QB is about over.

Agreed. And I think you all will look back at this as a blessing in disguise.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 11:23:10 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob and xaosgorilla like this

Post by shark86 on Sept 20, 2016 11:23:10 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 11:19:42 GMT -6 MartianBearsFan said:

Sept 20, 2016 11:17:39 GMT -6 ptisme said:

Agreed. And I think you all will look back at this as a blessing in disguise.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

In that case the last 30 years have been blessings in disguise....When do we get results?

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Post by mpbears68 on Sept 20, 2016 11:56:00 GMT -6

With Garrappolo out for the next few weeks and Brady set to return, JG's price may not be all that high with only 2 game tapes to look at instead of 4. Pace should inquire about a deal after this season. Yeah, I'm willing to "overpay" a bit at this point to move on and get someone with upside still left.

Based on White and Floyd, I don't trust Pace to draft a QB with what looks to be our 3rd straight top-10 pick.

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 12:56:19 GMT -6

Post by motm on Sept 20, 2016 12:56:19 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 11:56:00 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

With Garrappolo out for the next few weeks and Brady set to return, JG's price may not be all that high with only 2 game tapes to look at instead of 4. Pace should inquire about a deal after this season. Yeah, I'm willing to "overpay" a bit at this point to move on and get someone with upside still left.

Based on White and Floyd, I don't trust Pace to draft a QB with what looks to be our 3rd straight top-10 pick.

You really think one of the best GM/Coaches in NFL history will let Garrappolo go if he's good?

Let's just do what all other teams do and draft our QB.

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motm All-Pro Posts: 4,272 Likes: 2,007	Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 12:57:11 GMT -6 Post by motm on Sept 20, 2016 12:57:11 GMT -6 Well its not so bad. Its time to move on and hopefully draft our QB this year in the top 2. Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 13:22:05 GMT -6

Post by blueshoes on Sept 20, 2016 13:22:05 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 8:36:39 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Sept 20, 2016 8:22:20 GMT -6 JABF said:

That's too bad. I don't think anyone expected him to be healthy all this year. It has been 8 years since he's completed a full 16 game season.

It's nearly impossible to keep a QB healthy with the OL playing like a sieve and an OC calling plays that cluelessly don't recognize that fact.

mp68 I want you to be the OC ( sarc/off ) .

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 17:27:18 GMT -6

Post by mpbears68 on Sept 20, 2016 17:27:18 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 12:56:19 GMT -6 motm said:

Sept 20, 2016 11:56:00 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

With Garrappolo out for the next few weeks and Brady set to return, JG's price may not be all that high with only 2 game tapes to look at instead of 4. Pace should inquire about a deal after this season. Yeah, I'm willing to "overpay" a bit at this point to move on and get someone with upside still left.

Based on White and Floyd, I don't trust Pace to draft a QB with what looks to be our 3rd straight top-10 pick.

You really think one of the best GM/Coaches in NFL history will let Garrappolo go if he's good?

Let's just do what all other teams do and draft our QB.

We won't really know if he's good, will we? JG has played 2 meaningful games only and has looked promising there but still very small sample size. What if Brissett also looks good next 2 games? Bellicheck might be willing to unload Garrapolo in trade since he's a FA after next year anyway. It's just another potential option to consider that's all. JG would be a guy who's still very young with upside but also has some NFL training camp and game experience under his belt.

How much faith do you have in Pace to draft a QB after the Floyd and White picks??? I have very little at this point.

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Cutty suffers Ligament damage Sept 20, 2016 17:31:48 GMT -6

Post by motm on Sept 20, 2016 17:31:48 GMT -6

Sept 20, 2016 17:27:18 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Sept 20, 2016 12:56:19 GMT -6 motm said:

You really think one of the best GM/Coaches in NFL history will let Garrappolo go if he's good?

Let's just do what all other teams do and draft our QB.

We won't really know if he's good, will we? JG has played 2 meaningful games only and has looked promising there but still very small sample size. What if Brissett also looks good next 2 games? Bellicheck might be willing to unload Garrapolo in trade since he's a FA after next year anyway. It's just another potential option to consider that's all. JG would be a guy who's still very young with upside but also has some NFL training camp and game experience under his belt.

How much faith do you have in Pace to draft a QB after the Floyd and White picks??? I have very little at this point.

Belichick has been great with knowing what's talented and what isn't. He's been a master at keeping his team competitive over the past decade and a half. If Belichick thinks Garrappolo is good he's going to keep him. If he think's he isn't he ain't.

Honestly I don't have much faith in Pace with QB situation but I rather we try and fail than give up multiple picks for a QB that could be a failure ( Patriots QB have a history of that ).

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