Post by germansbombedph on Jan 10, 2018 6:36:17 GMT -6
1. I hope that only 2 QB will get drafted until then. Bears are in a good spot to trade down. My Eye is on Buffalo or Arizona. Buffalo has #21 and #22 this year. Couple that for their new QB would be good for both Teams. Arizona has #15 and could add a 2nd round pick (or even more) to get their guy. (CLE trades for ASmith and does not take a QB with Kizer as Project behind Smith) 2. draft BPA, lots of needs
1. I hope that only 2 QB will get drafted until then. Bears are in a good spot to trade down. My Eye is on Buffalo or Arizona. Buffalo has #21 and #22 this year. Couple that for their new QB would be good for both Teams. Arizona has #15 and could add a 2nd round pick (or even more) to get their guy. (CLE trades for ASmith and does not take a QB with Kizer as Project behind Smith) 2. draft BPA, lots of needs
I am not entirely sure Kizer has shown himself as a long-term option. If I were Cleveland I would draft 2 QBs and get Smith. They would still draft the 2 worst QBs possible.
Post by germansbombedph on Jan 10, 2018 7:00:38 GMT -6
They Need to take the BPA and Barkley. Giants will select a QB and let's just hope that there is a QB available ARZ or BUF likes and wants to jump up. This could give us a huge boost in getting more draft picks now or next year. Arizona could try to trade up with the same Price KC traded up for Mahomes. Buffalo could give 21/22 and maybe a 3rd next year. That be much Young Talent added.
Guys i think the bears might target, either at 8, or via a trade back to garner more picks(althought i think a trade back might happen in the 2nd). Again, Pace seems to want physical attributes over day 1 ready to play football players in the early rounds, and I don't think he wants character issues, see him getting rid of all the characters OLB/DE: Clelin Ferrell**, 3-4OLB, Clemson Height: 6-5. Weight: 265. Projected 40 Time: 4.77. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. Clemson has a defensive line that is comprised of future first-round picks, and some sources think that Ferrell creates some of the big plays for the Tigers' other defensive linemen. Fellow defensive end Austin Bryant is playing himself into an early-rounder this year, but Bryant has done well cleaning up a lot of scrambling quarterbacks running away from Ferrell. Ferrell looks like a future first-round pick in the 2018 or 2019 NFL Draft. Ferrell has superb speed with athleticism and the ability bend around the corner. He is very fast off the snap to get upfield and put quick pressure on the quarterback. Ferrell is more disruptive than his stat line indicates. On the season, he has 58 tackles with 16 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks, one pass batted and two forced fumbles. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB3-4.php#ixzz53mxkc7MK
Austin Bryant*, 3-4OLB, Clemson Height: 6-4. Weight: 265. Projected 40 Time: 4.77. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 12/16/17: Scouting sources have told me they felt that Bryant has been playing his way into a first-round-caliber prospect this season. He has been a dynamic speed rusher and a pass-rushing force for one of the best defenses in college football. In 2017, Bryant has 7.5 sacks with 47 tackles, 14.5 for a loss, one interception and two forced fumbles. 9/1/17: Bryant missed eight games for Clemson in 2016. As a result, he had 13 tackles with two sacks on the season. In 2015, he had 23 tackles with 1.5 sacks. Clemson feels that Bryant has a lot of ability and is excited about him for 2017. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB3-4.php#ixzz53n0FE2Cz
Vita Vea*, DT, Washington Height: 6-5. Weight: 332. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 12/16/17: Some sources have compared Vea to Haloti Ngata in terms of ability to play defensive end or nose tackle. They feel that Vea is a special nose tackle prospect who offers more than Danny Shelton did coming out of Washington. Vea will be downgraded in the 2018 NFL Draft because of being a nose tackle, but he still is a special and rare player. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack. He is a heavy nose tackle who is a rock against the run and can occasionally collapse the pocket in the pass rush. Vea has 38 tackles, 3.5 sacks and four passes batted in 2017. He has shown the ability to contribute somewhat in the pass rush while being big, strong, and having a burst at the point of attack. Vea is very reminiscent of Danny Shelton at Washington, and Shelton ended up going as a top-20 draft pick. That was a bit of a reach by Cleveland, but Vea could end up going in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018DE3-4.php#ixzz53n0y7Mxb
Taven Bryan*, DT, Florida Height: 6-4. Weight: 295. Projected 40 Time: 4.99. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 12/16/17: Bryan broke out in 2017 with 40 tackles with six tackles for a loss and four sacks. He had a dominant game against Texas A&M. In speaking with some scouting sources, Bryan has drawn comparisons to Denver Broncos defensive lineman Derek Wolfe. Some announcers have compared the 6-foot-4, 295-pounder Bryan to J.J. Watt, and in terms of style of play Bryan is reminiscent of Watt when playing well, but Bryan is not consistently dominant to deserve a comparison to Watt. Bryan has a tremendous get-off with serious explosion off the snap. He also has developed strength with active hands to shed blocks. With his length, Bryan can play end or tackle, and he would be a perfect fit as a five-technique. He had a late start in football, however, from growing up Wyoming, and that shows up in him not demonstrating good instincts. Bryan is inconsistent while lacking feel and pass-rushing moves. Thus even though he is a first-round athlete, he still needs development as a player. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018DE3-4.php#ixzz53n7bJKVF
CB: Joshua Jackson*, CB, Iowa Height: 6-1. Weight: 192. Projected 40 Time: 4.51. Projected Round (2018): 1. 1/6/18: In speaking with a director of college scouting, they had Jackson as the highest-graded cornerback for the 2018 NFL Draft. It is easy to understand why Jackson is held in such high esteem as he had tremendous ball production in 2017 with eight interceptions and 18 passes broken up to go along with 48 tackles. Evaluators like Jackson's size to go along with his speed and athleticism. With his skill set and production, Jackson could be the first cornerback off the board in the 2018 NFL Draft. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php#ixzz53n1roMUd
Carlton Davis*, CB, Auburn Height: 6-1. Weight: 195. Projected 40 Time: 4.53. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 1/6/17: In 2017, Davis totaled 36 tackles, 11 passes broken up and one interception. He is a good corner with size, speed and length. The junior can battle big wideouts as he is a physical defender who really competes. Davis can also have issues with coverage downfield and deep speed like many big corners. Some sources believe he could end up being a first-round pick, but others aren't as high on Davis. 9/1/17: Davis was a very impressive freshman cornerback in 2015 as he totaled 56 tackles with three interceptions and eight passes broken up. As a sophomore, Davis had a solid season with 46 tackles and 10 breakups. Davis shows nice technique to jam receivers and use his length to cover them. He has the potential to rise. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php#ixzz53n1v1Zk7
WR: Courtland Sutton*, WR, SMU Height: 6-4. Weight: 216. Projected 40 Time: 4.51. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 12/30/17: In 2017, Sutton totaled 68 catches for 1,085 yards with 12 touchdowns. He played well for SMU and continued to be a dynamic point-scoring threat. Sutton wisely decided to skip his final year of eligibility to enter the 2018 NFL Draft. 7/17/17: In 2016, Sutton totaled 76 receptions for 1,246 yards - 16.5 yard average per catch - with 10 touchdowns. He played well for SMU, showing his size, strength and quickness. He could have been a first-round pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, but the redshirt sophomore decided to return for his junior year Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php#ixzz53n4MbJom
Equanimeous St. Brown*, WR, Notre Dame Height: 6-4. Weight: 205. Projected 40 Time: 4.50. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 12/30/17: St. Brown has 31 receptions for 468 yards and four touchdowns on the year. Throughout this season, St. Brown has gotten open while also seeing a lot of double teams, but the immense struggles of Notre Dame's quarterback play and passing offense have limited St. Brown. 7/17/17: Sources who have done advance work on the 2018 class are really impressed and intrigued with St. Brown. They say he is a super-polished route runner with tremendous speed, athletic ability, body control, and hands. They said they think St. Brown could be more gifted and talented than the three wideouts who went in the top 10 of the 2017 NFL Draft, but St. Brown gets fewer opportunities to show his skill. In 2016, he had 58 receptions for 961 yards with nine touchdowns Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php#ixzz53n4VSZGq
Christian Kirk*, WR, Texas A&M Height: 5-11. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.43. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 12/29/17: Kirk has 58 catches for 730 yards and seven touchdowns so far this season. Versus Arkansas, he carried Texas A&M to a win with five catches for 110 yards with two touchdowns and a kickoff returned for a touchdown. Kirk is a fast play-maker who really competes and has special potential for the NFL. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php#ixzz53n4xQd3B
OT Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame Height: 6-7. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.30. Projected Round (2018): 1. 1/6/18: McGlinchey improved as a senior and is likely the top offensive tackle prospect for the 2018 NFL Draft. He has good athleticism on the edge with the feet to handle speed and good strength to sustain blocks. Unlike many finesse left tackles, McGlinchey is a quality run blocker who can get movement at the point of attack. He blocked well in 2017 and was a key cog in Notre Dame's potent rushing attack. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018OT.php#ixzz53n5NbVn0
Kolton Miller*, OT, UCLA Height: 6-8. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/6/18: Miller had a rough start to 2017, but turned in a quality season blocking for Josh Rosen as the Bruins left tackle. Miller has good length to him and the ability to stay on the edge in the NFL. However, he might be a better fit as a right tackle in the pros as he can have problems with speed rushes to the inside. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2018OT.php#ixzz53n5hxAdE
*I still have issues beleiving they will take a LT in the high first after extending Leno who has proven he can only play LT. But a guy like Miller is a perfect option in the late 1st or 2nd.
Post by germansbombedph on Jan 10, 2018 8:30:42 GMT -6
Like I said, what could you get out of Arizona to go from #8 to #15 just that they can take their QB? Would they be willing to add a future 1st? Would it be 2x 2nd? Would it be less? It could be all of them 3. Would Buffalo go after Josh Allen at #8 playing outdoors? They have #21 and #22. That alone are 2 guys supposed to start. It'd be a huge drop and I'm sure you could squezze out more than that from them to finally give them their QB. Imagine #21/22 and a 2nd round pick or 2 3rds (2018 and 2019). Pace is Building a Team with the guys he picks and getting Talent that early and lots of picks will help them. The year we took Floyd, there was no run at QBs or QBs to get picked that high. It Looks like this year 4 could go in the Top15 with Teams in Need of drafting one. I'd gladly help them get their guy if they pay the Price to jump the other Team. Mahomes and Watson Deals are a good compareable, even Trubisky trade.
